Talk:Robert Wilton (author)

Latest comment: 4 years ago by Verbcatcher in topic Mentioning his partner in the lead

Mentioning his partner in the lead edit

@Chiswick Chap: you have has reinstated a sentence about Wilton's partner in the lead paragraph, effectively undoing my earlier revert. The sentence is:

  • His partner is the travel writer and educator Elizabeth Gowing; they founded the Ideas Partnership together.

I think it better to not include this in the lead; it is already covered in the Personal life and career section. My reasons are:

  1. Most biographical articles do not mention the subject's partner in the lead section, unless the partner is independently notable (i.e. we have an article on him or her).
  2. Mentioning the Ideas Partnership in the lead overemphasises its importance, see MOS:BLPLEAD and WP:WEIGHT. We do not have an article on this charity.
  3. The sentence is unclear as we do not describe what the Ideas Partnership is.

Please explain why this merits a mention in the lead. Verbcatcher (talk) 00:14, 27 January 2020 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for discussing. The Ideas Partnership can be studied on the Web, and the couple have worked on it together. When a charity and a travel writer are closely associated with another person then it makes good sense to cover them together. I don't see RW as bigger than EG but I'm busy elsewhere. If you want to rewrite the lead then do, it should summarize all sections of the article. Don't ping me. Chiswick Chap (talk) 00:21, 27 January 2020 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for the response. I am happy with the paragraph about Gowing and the Ideas Partnership in the 'Personal life and career' section. I am taking issue with repeating the material in the lead section. In my view this is overweight, as this of less significance than other aspects of his career. I will remove the paragraph from the lead, and plan to expand the lead section to mention his work with the Kosovo government. Verbcatcher (talk) 21:09, 28 January 2020 (UTC)Reply