Talk:Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
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Edit request 16 September 2024
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Description of suggested change: Please link "ethyl mercury" to Ethylmercury#Toxicity
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RememberOrwell (talk) 07:08, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the
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template. - I would personally be against it; I think it's suggestive linking that would credence to RFK Jr's unfounded claims. --AntiDionysius (talk) 10:15, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- How would linking an ion to its Wikipedia page give credence to his claims. AstralNomad (talk) 08:03, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Because the proposed link is to the "toxicity" subsection, and without further context the obvious implication is that this ingredient as used in vaccines is a toxin. AntiDionysius (talk) 09:22, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- It is a toxin, according to the EPA. And that is their area of expertise. There have been no animal studies according to the CDC (https://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/ToxProfiles/tp46.pdf). Its toxicity is the reason it's used as a preservative and fungicide. Thimerosal's LD50 is 75 mg/kg (Rat). It's killed thousands - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14450973/ ... Is it against an unwritten 0th law to allow content that could cause vaccine hesitancy? Let's not use ableist language to cast aspersions; "using someone's political affiliations as an ad hominem means of dismissing or discrediting their views, such as accusing them of being left-wing or right-wing", is explicitly forbidden by policy. Chisso Corp attitudes are not encyclopedic. RememberOrwell (talk) 14:07, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- I would call vaccine safety and human health CDC's area of expertise, and they've said in no uncertain terms that it's safe. AntiDionysius (talk) 14:12, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- It is not used anymore, and Kennedy says it is. That is the unfounded claim. And "toxic" is not a contradiction to "safe" because the dose makes the poison (Paracelsus). --Hob Gadling (talk) 14:57, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- I would call vaccine safety and human health CDC's area of expertise, and they've said in no uncertain terms that it's safe. AntiDionysius (talk) 14:12, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- It is a toxin, according to the EPA. And that is their area of expertise. There have been no animal studies according to the CDC (https://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/ToxProfiles/tp46.pdf). Its toxicity is the reason it's used as a preservative and fungicide. Thimerosal's LD50 is 75 mg/kg (Rat). It's killed thousands - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14450973/ ... Is it against an unwritten 0th law to allow content that could cause vaccine hesitancy? Let's not use ableist language to cast aspersions; "using someone's political affiliations as an ad hominem means of dismissing or discrediting their views, such as accusing them of being left-wing or right-wing", is explicitly forbidden by policy. Chisso Corp attitudes are not encyclopedic. RememberOrwell (talk) 14:07, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Because the proposed link is to the "toxicity" subsection, and without further context the obvious implication is that this ingredient as used in vaccines is a toxin. AntiDionysius (talk) 09:22, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- How would linking an ion to its Wikipedia page give credence to his claims. AstralNomad (talk) 08:03, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Let's link water to drowning or asphyxiation everywhere we see it. And let us not forget that Dihydrogen Monoxide has been found in a variety of cancers. (Sarcasm) -- M.boli (talk) 15:20, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- No, it can't be a toxin, as mercury is used in homeopathy (Mercurius solubilis) /s
- Besides, Thiomersal is ethyl(2-mercaptobenzoato-(2-)-O,S) mercurate(1-) sodium, not the component of your 60 years old paper (ethyl mercury toluene sulphonanilide ). --Julius Senegal (talk) 19:24, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 19 September 2024
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This page is spreading false information by accusing Robert F Kennedy of spreading false information. You have no substantial evidence to make a claim that he is spreading lies. 173.198.127.23 (talk) 14:41, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: Discussed extensively previously. — Czello (music) 14:42, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
"Misinformation" adjective should be removed
editthe vaccine is a topic of contention. Sources cited n this entry tend to lean toward pro vaccine and politically left opinion. To blanket state that he is a proponent of "misinformation" is biased opinion, not fact. He and his family are vaccinated. The fact that he has stated that all vaccines should be carefully tested or that he questions potential vaccine risks is not misinformation. It's a difference of opinion. Shame on you Wikipedia for allowing real misinformation from your contributors. This is not supposed to be a forum to slander people based on political bias. Bkintz (talk) 10:16, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- Read the FAQ at the top of this Talk page. --Hob Gadling (talk) 13:44, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
Anti Vaccine is false
editRFK Jr told Congress that he has followed the vaccine schedule and is fully vaccinated with the exception of Covid which he believes needs to be held to the same scrutiny that the other vaccines are held to. It is extremely misleading to say he is anti-vax when he and his family have had their vaccinations. 24.40.228.32 (talk) 04:06, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Read the FAQ at the top of this Talk page. --Hob Gadling (talk) 06:34, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Anonymous poster is correct. You are simply wrong, Hob Gadling. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuQ8Bv330C0 — Foxtrot1296 (talk) 06:55, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Things like this have been discussed a thousand times before; please see the FAQ. — Czello (music) 07:01, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Anonymous poster is correct. You are simply wrong, Hob Gadling. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuQ8Bv330C0 — Foxtrot1296 (talk) 06:55, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
New York bar exam
editThe article states that he resigned from the New York DA's office in July 1983, "after failing the New York bar exam." It would be more accurate to say something like: "In February 1983, he walked out on his second attempt at the New York bar exam, and resigned several months later."
It could also be worth mentioning that he passed the written portion later in 1983, but apparently failed the character and witness portion.
See below for a mention of his February 1983 walkout:
https://time.com/archive/6882941/crash-landing-for-bobby/
And his passing of the written portion later in 1983:
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Arsene10 (talk • contribs) 20:56, 11 October 2024 (UTC)