Talk:River Derwent (Tasmania)
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River vs Estuary
editThe very nice photo Sunrise over the Derwent River is actually of the Derwent Estuary. The river feeds into the estuary but they are two distinct, quite different geographic features. Is it accepted to conflate river and its estuary on wikipedia? 86.130.20.230 (talk) 22:51, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
earlier question
editWhich Enterprise? Which Missouri? -129.2.40.144 01:54, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Disambiguated. Securiger 02:03, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Page name
editI know it is a real PITA to do this immediately after the links have been changed, but shouldn't this article have the primary Derwent River article name - going by how many other articles link to the Derwent River (SA) and Derwent River (Tas) articles? -- Chuq 00:07, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Etymology
editBarrylb changed the etymology from "valley thick with oaks" to "clear water" on the basis of the site http://www.derwentestuary.org.au/ I have changed it back because every other reference I can find—and there are many, I just listed the first 3 as references—agrees with the original version. (Rather more worringly, the www.derwentestuary.org.au not only disagrees with everyone else, but does so without giving an actual etymology, and in a context where they are effectively using this "evidence" as a supporting argument.) -- Securiger 08:17, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
- Hmmm... I will email the people at the Derwent Estuary program. I will be very interested to hear what they have to say about this. -- Barrylb 18:48, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
- Derwent Estuary Program sent me a link http://encyclopedia.jrank.org/DEM_DIO/DERWENT_Celtic_Dwr_gent_clear_w.html as justification for saying the name is based on 'clear water'. They said 'valley thick with oaks' could be right though, and suggested asking a university about which is correct. Any ideas who to contact, or any other way of knowing which meaning is correct other than just the number of references? Also I think based on the references the name should actually be 'river lined with oaks' rather than 'valley thick with oaks'. -- Barrylb 10:34, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
I would like to change the explanation of derivation of the name to this:
The name is Brythonic Celtic for "river lined with oaks"[1][2] or "clear water"[3]
It seems there are two possible derivations of the name. I also removed the internal reference to Etymology_of_Cumbrian_Place_Names#Rivers because it is based on one of the references already given.
References
editCoordinate error
edit{{geodata-check}}
The coordinates need the following fixes:
- Write here
The lat/long for the Derwent River (Tasmania) is placed outside the mouth of the river. This URL shows the extent of the river better: Derwent EstuaryTwang (talk) 05:55, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what you mean. The map you linked shows the river extending to the Piersons Point–Fort Direction area, which matches the coordinates in the article. Can you clarify? Deor (talk) 19:57, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
- The existing coordinates are in the river's estuary, which is acceptable per Wikipedia:WikiProject_Geographical_coordinates/Linear. No correction is needed. — TRANSPORTERMAN (TALK) 16:59, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
The river of the "Salmon Pink Sunset?"
editI've removed the following sentence:
'The Derwent is often referred to as the river of the "Salmon Pink Sunset" as a reference to the magnificent salmon pink glow that emanates over the region once the sun sets'
I've lived in Hobart for most of my life and I've NEVER heard the Derwent referred to as such; nor can I find any references to a Tasmanian "Salmon Pink Sunset" online except on Wikipedia. If anyone can find a citation to support the inclusion of the above sentence, feel free to reinstate it!
Tributaries
editGerman wikipedia has a whole set of articles about or identifying tributaries, gleaned from travel maps and bonzie, as a result the wikidata article for this item has the bizarre situation of links to q numbers and german articles about tributaries with no names but q numbers only (no english names in labels or descriptors)
and there is nothing here in english wikipedia about them, considering the relative complexity of the issue, the 'geography' section of this article lacks any adequate explanation of the inter-relationship between the tributaries/hec structures and works/ and the river JarrahTree 14:59, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
Naming of the river Derwent in Tasmania
editThe river Derwent in the UK is in Derbyshire, not Cumbria as stated in Wikipedia. 2601:601:4100:7FF0:84B0:273A:CF41:5CBB (talk) 22:24, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
- A quick Google confirms there's more than one River Derwent in the UK, and one of them is indeed in Cumbria. Perhaps this explains the confusion? Nightyb (t) 23:27, 20 February 2023 (UTC)