Talk:Richard Montgomery

stuff to add

Wow there is a lot to be added to this page, I just finished reading a book on Montgomery entitled, "General Richard Montgomery and the American Revolution" written by my history professor Hal T. Shelton. I must say it has every little detail you would ever want on the general and his contribution to the American Revolution. I don't have much time to actually add info right now, but I recommend anyone interested go out and buy the book and perhaps add some much needed info to this article. Sky 13:55, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

An article in last saturday's irish times stated that it had been discovered that Montgomery had in face been born on the Abbeyville Estate, in Kinsealy, (near but not in Swords) Co. Dublin. The issue of interest was that this home was the marital home of Taoiseach Charles Haughey. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.71.17.108 (talk) 23:07, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Spotlight Todo

• Put {{fact}} tags where needed
• Clean up legacy section, reword, completely reorganize
• Needs tons of expansion in every section of the article
• Lead is too short, needs expansion
• More cites
• Fix red links

Red4tribe (talk) 02:18, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Also we need to figure out the best idea for the lists. We could shorten it out, and transform it into a paragraph style maybe? Synergy 09:46, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

The place of birth needs to be consistent. The info box only says county dublin, but the article says swords county dublin. Any reason why? Synergy 04:05, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

That is fixed.-Red4tribe (talk) 00:53, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Someone should go to this link and add some info in from there so there is more than 1 source.-Red4tribe (talk) 21:08, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Date inconsistency?

In copyediting, I note that there is a date inconsistency in the approach to Fort St. John. One paragraph has Schuyler arriving Sep 4, the next has action on Sep 6, the next has action on Sep 4 again. Magic♪piano 19:43, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

I checked the source, it is supposed to be the 10th not the 4th. Either some vandalisim was overlooked or there wasa typo.-Kieran4 (talk) 21:09, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

St. Johns and Montreal

I have some comment on the section dealing with St. Johns, Chambly, and Montreal. In my opinion, this part is missing some things that ought to be elaborated a bit more.

• James Livingston deserves more mention in the events around St. Johns (and possibly communications prior to the actual invasion), since he actually plays a somewhat important role with respect to the fall of Chambly, and is related to Montgomery's wife. (He also goes on to participate at Quebec City, leading the 1st Canadian Regiment.)
• The approach to Montreal is very superficially described. Some forces go to Sorel rather than Montreal, to cut off Carleton's fleet; I believe this may have been Montgomery's idea.
• Montgomery had to deal with setting up administration in Montreal before he moved on to Quebec City. This is not covered here at all. It gets involved in Quebec politics, which I think he felt a little out of his depth in.

These are all things I didn't cover well either when I worked on Invasion of Canada (1775); they should definitely have some space here. Magic♪piano 04:04, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

I've finished copyediting. In addition to the above comments, I add the recommendation that the descriptions of the revolutionary war "set pieces" be rounded out with sources that specifically describe those events in more detail; besides the above, the battle of quebec treats Arnold's attack a little too superficially. There is probably also space to include a post-mortem (literally) discussion of his behavior at Quebec -- whether the sort of leadership he exhibited in the attack was appropriate, typical, or expected of high-level commanders.

I've also added some details to the Quebec battle that need citation. Kieran, if you want, I can dig something up for them. Magic♪piano 17:17, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

I'll get started. Yes, anything you can dig up that would be useful I will glady take a look at, thanks.-Kieran4 (talk) 03:04, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Richard Montgomery

Richard Montgomery is in my family tree and i never understood why he is so famous, what did he do i mean i am not disrespecting him i just have no idea what he did for him to be that famous and remembered by so many people. I know that he dies at Quebec during the american revoultionary war, so if you can answer this it would be nice just message me at my email which is nick56x@live.com. So thank you if you answer —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nick56x (talk • contribs) 01:24, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Burial

Wouldn't it make sense just to list his burial as Manhattan, New York? While originally he was in Quebec City, he has been re-interned. Where he was previously interned does not need to be in an infobox, especially when the current burial spot is beneath in smaller text. Sovietmessiah (talk) 20:19, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

GA Reassessment

Richard Montgomery

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Result: Sourcing issues across what both is and isn't inline cited. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 22:14, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

Inline citations are needed in the "Memorials" (first half), "Legacy" and "In popular culture" sections. Z1720 (talk) 14:59, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

I removed the unsourced paragraphs added later on that really shouldn't have been in there to begin with. Was that the only issue? I mean that only took me 5 minutes to address not sure if it was worth sending to GAR. Wizardman 00:43, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

There's still some unreferenced passages throughout the article, which are marked with a citation needed. I took another look at the article and see that most inline citations are to the Shelton source, which is a high-quality source but might not represent the breadth of knowledge about him. Some other sources that could be used in the article are Biographi, a JSTOR article, another JSTOR article and possible sources in the Invasion of Quebec (1775) article (since Montgomery was heavily involved in that). @Wizardman: would you be willing to take a look and add citations or remove uncited passages as needed? Z1720 (talk) 01:05, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay in responding. Reading this a bit further I actually have a couple extra concerns on top of what you noted, namely most of the sourcing being from just one book. While not a deal-breaker in and of itself, that combined with your concerns makes me think we're probably better delisting this one until it can be fine-tuned more (even if I'm able to add/remove the citations I think the issues still stand, unfortunately). Wizardman 02:50, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

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