Talk:Republic of Pontus

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There is no such country in the history called Republic of Pontus, please see references for more details. Pontus has been a small kingdom in the past as part of Byzantian Empire, between 1204-1461. This is a diversion of the history, please do not divert the history but stand what it says.

References: [[1]] for history of Pontus in wikipedia [[2]] for another source

This is the most absurd article I have read. You greeks never seem to amaze me!!! The greeks living on noth-eastern anatolia were not the majority of the population in 1917! This article is nothing but historical falsification. The authors do not provide any references or links to back up their claim. Therefore I have removed the part where it says the greeks were a majority in nort-eastern anatolia, which is basically a lie! and I will remove this each time unless there is evidence contrary to this Orrin_73

"You Greeks." Anyway, this 'state' existed (to some extent) for five years. Also, you say that unless there is evidence presented showing Greek majority you will remove the claim... but doesn't that make you just a guilty, considering that you yourself have not presented any evidence to the contrary? --Nikoz78 (talk) 19:05, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Here are two ethnic maps. One shows Greek majority in Pontos, the other in Smryna region. --Nikoz78 (talk) 19:27, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Greeks were never the majority in Smyrna, neither in Pontus. You guys need to see a mental hospital. Smyrna had around 600.000-700.000 Turks and 100.000-150.000 Greeks during the Ottoman Empire. 78.163.19.133 (talk) 15:29, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e144/fazop/Ethnicturkey1911.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e144/fazop/Hellenism_in_the_Near_East_1918.jpg

A non-existent state?

This state did not exist. It never proclaimed independence, it never built any of the state apparatus and mechanisms, it never reached anything other than a plan. This is not even a case of a self-proclaimed entity, the entity itself did not exist. I am seriously wondering why the article itself exists? --Free smyrnan 12:55, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree that this page served no purpose however it should not be removed it should instead since the idea for a republic of Pontus exists than the page should be renamed to Republic of Pontus(Concept) to distinguish between conceptualised and estaiblished nations and those that were conceptual.AussieSkeptic82 (talk) 02:30, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

I moved article from Republic of Pontus to Provisional Republic of Pontus.--Abbatai 20:04, 15 January 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abbatai (talk • contribs)

I'm moving it back to Republic of Pontus. The fact that the state was not declared does not mean it would have been named 'Provisional Republic of Pontus', similarly the non-existant state of United States of Africa has its own page, not United States of Africa (concept) or Provisional United States of Africa. The same goes for United States of Europe. -- Philly boy92 (talk) 11:13, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Lots more of references and information in the Russian version missing here

http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%82_%28%D1%80%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BF%D1%83%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%29

The Russian version has a full fledged article with tons of references. Why not bring them here? 87.219.85.141 (talk) 02:06, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Sources pertaining to casualties

@Demo66top: The casualties in the 6th source compliment the rest of the sources and are reliable. In terms of total Greeks in the Pontus, the author could be referring to the Greeks around the Pontic Sea for all we know, not just northeastern Turkey. But this is irrelevant since the reference is added to support the casualties, not the total population. As for the 7th source, it also compliments the rest of the sources in terms of casualties, and it is a reliable source. Just because it is Greek doesn't mean it's unreliable. Even if it is biased as you say, take note that reliable sources are not required to be neutral, unbiased, or objective per WP:BIASED. Demetrios1993 (talk) 11:41, 30 May 2021 (UTC)