Talk:Regional municipality

Split apart (2021)

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There is consesnsus not to split. Felix QW (talk) 07:46, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

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Split to Regional municipality (Ontario) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

This article is biased towards Ontario's form of regional municipality. It should be a general overview of the form instead. But the intro section is mostly about Ontario, and not the other provinces found in this article. This should be fixed with a focused article on Ontario, and a more general article for this form in general, such as found at rural municipality. A summary of the Ontario content would be left behind, with a new intro section. The Quebec section already is just a summary (though probably too short at the moment) and a link to a main article. -- 65.93.183.33 (talk) 12:40, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

• I don't think a split is necessary, because the article isn't terribly long. Fleshing out the sections for the other provinces would be a better solution, IMO. Regards, PKT(alk) 13:08, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
• I agree with PKT, a split doesn't seem warranted here. The page may have more information about Ontario's situation than the other provinces, by a fair margin, but it doesn't seem like there's actually much else to say about it (so not really something that can support its own article) and nor is this page particularly long. It seems to me that the better way to address the page's slant would to just buff up the sections for the other provinces and re-write the lead to be more generic. — Kawnhr (talk) 18:18, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose- Agree with the above, not worthy of a stand-alone article. My 2¢.   Aloha27  talk  18:45, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose – expanding this article to provide more detail on regional municipalities in Nova Scotia and Quebec is the solution. Hwy43 (talk) 06:08, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose - article needs some municipal restructuring. :) Only Ontario and Nova Scotia actually call their upper-tier municipalities / county-level equivalents "regional municipalities". The cases in Alberta and BC are just proper names, and Quebec doesn't even belong in the list. - Floydian ^τ _¢ 18:12, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
  • That is the difference between the concept of the "regional municipality" and the de jure term for regional municipalities. The Quebec MRCs are not called "RM"s, but are county-equivalents as municipal governments. The concept of a municipal government for a regional area covers more than just Canada. There's China's county-level city for example. There also the metropolitan government format. Thus my suggestion of generalization like rural municipality, while speficity for Ontario is a separate article, like how Quebec's article is a separate article. -- 65.93.183.33 (talk) 22:12, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
    • Except there is no concept for a regional municipality. It's just the administrative name of some Upper-tier municipalities in Ontario and some single-tier municipalities in Nova Scotia. After examining the examples in this article, this should be a set-index article. - Floydian ^τ _¢ 05:31, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Came here from WikiProject Cities. It's such an obscure topic that a finer branch off is not needed at this point. Graywalls (talk) 22:15, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose – More appropriate to expand List of municipalities in Ontario instead (upper tier municipalities section). WildComet (talk) 06:04, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose. The issues identified by the nominator can be fixed with regular editing of this article. Just explain the differences between provinces, no need for a split. -- P 1 9 9  ✉ 04:09, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
• Comment Why not rework the article to reflect all county-level government in Canada and change the title? Transportfan70 (talk) 15:39, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

I’d advise against as it would be a mess. Unlike Ontario, most Canadian provinces only have single tier municipalities. Consensus to determine a title for such would also be impossible. Hwy43 (talk) 00:26, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

• Comment Having lived in Nova Scotia and now Ontario I am aware of regional municipalities in their sheer stupidity. I believe Nova Scotia should be expanded in this article due to Halifax Regional Municipality and it's absolute chaos. If you want to have fun go look up the old revisions of Historical Halifax vs. the current monstrosity that it is on their respective pages. In Ontario, it has these bizarre amalgamations, with two tiers of government that make no sense for example Regional Municipality of Niagara and Regional Municipality of Peel. Keep the towns and cities, their mayors and councils and then have another regional council, and then the provincial government is insanity. In Government in Halifax, Nova Scotia for example at least the regional council is the only "city council" where those specific community councils are just made up of the same councillors. Much less complicated, at least you know who you vote for. Anyway, this is a very Canadian thing to do as there's very little info on amalgamation in other countries - it exists but it's not as popular. CaffeinAddict (talk) 02:46, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose. I'd agree that a split isn't warranted yet, as the article isn't overly long. If the content about provinces other than Ontario is inadequate, then the first answer to that is to expand the content about other provinces rather than pruning back the content about Ontario per se — and then if the article is long enough we can consider splitting it up into separate articles for each province. But as things stand right now, that's not necessary yet, because the article just isn't that long and needs expansion more than it needs reduction. Expand the content about other provinces first, and then we can consider whether the article is long enough to justify splitting. Bearcat (talk) 15:17, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
• Comment- A good idea would be to keep this article, but create another article: "Canadian Provincial divisions". All provinces have divisions of some sort. Alberta has census divisions, and BC has regional districts, for example. Transportfan70 (talk) 14:54, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

We already have List of census divisions of Canada by population. At the next level down we also have Lists of municipalities in Canada. Hwy43 (talk) 00:16, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

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