Talk:Reddy (surname)

Edit request

Add Cingireddy Narayana Reddy, Cattamanchi Ramalinga Reddy under poets/writers. Add the only Indian Turing Award winner Raj Reddy under a new section Academics. Add Anji Reddy under industrialists. Nagi Reddy (Vijaya Movies, Chandamama fame) under Movies section. Add Pratap C Reddy under entrepreneurs (Appollo hospital chain). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.162.23.79 (talk) 18:04, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

These entries have previously been removed because they violated our policies. In particular, we need verifiability and in the case of living people that means verified self-identification by them. Such verifications didn't exist at the time of removal but if you now have some sources that fit this purpose then please do let us know what they are. Thanks. - Sitush (talk) 18:08, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

This is ridiculous. Why not take down the whole article then? I don't see any references for any of the existing entries. Some of the people mentioned in the article are far less important / inspiring than those I listed. You seem to be unfamiliar about the Caste discourse in India. There is no offical certificate given out to people born in a certain caste. Caste doesn't play any role in public life (though it plays a prominent role in marriages, communities) so there is no reason why a person would publicly self-identify as belonging to a particular caste. I don't see single citation for any of the notable Brahmins in List of Brahmins article. It's not even locked like this page. Why then is this special discrimination for this article? 14.139.97.79 (talk) 18:44, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

User:Sitush/Common#Castelists explains the principles. Yes, there are entries here and at other lists that should be removed. Rome was not built in a day. - Sitush (talk) 18:47, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

The fact that all these persons use 'Reddy' as their surname is enough to prove that they aren't dissociating themselves from their caste (unlike Amitabh, whose case you mentioned). A person's caste is a hereditarily acquired thing as opposed to say religious affiliation which we can't assume unless the person is a known adherent to the belief system. In that respect caste is similar to ethnicity. Doesn't it sound ridiculous if I question the inclusion of Michael Jackson's African American ethnicity simply because he never publicly self-identified as African American? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.19.16.79 (talk) 19:31, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Ok, should we add Helen Reddy, given that she clearly associates herself by her name? - Sitush (talk) 19:39, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

I'm talking about Indians who use Reddy surname here. People can easily figure out that Helen Reddy doesn't belong to this group given the disambiguation page. Let me get a bit offtopic here and explain to you why I'm so intent on adding these entries. Whether or not we like it caste based politics is a ground reality in India and various castes often compete with each other to portray their caste as a victim of discrimination and thus claim that they have been historically denied opportunities (to benefit from affirmative action schemes). In the state Tamil Nadu even rich land owning communities succeeded in getting themselves unfarily listed under backward classes. Given that there are so many people in 'Reddy' community who have had opportunities to rise economically, politically they can no longer claim to be backward. These lists are not just silly scoring points, as you seem to think, but they document, illustrate the crucial information about the historical socio-economic status of a caste in the society. I'm pretty new to all this editing business so I request you to provide my version to whoever determines the policy of including / excluding caste information. 14.139.97.79 (talk) 20:19, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Policy on Wikipedia is determined by consensus, not by any one individual. As a general rule, I'd advise you not to approach editing here with some sort of real-world agenda, other than that of improving the encyclopedia. It is far too easy to get drawn into accusations of having a conflict of interest or failing to edit neutrally.

I was well aware that the Helen Reddy example was ludicrous but that was actually my point. Even in India, you have no way of knowing that just because someone's last name is "Reddy" that means they are of the Reddy community or desire to be of it. People usually use last names because they are given them, most commonly as an accident of birth. Basing stuff on their last name is original research and we are not allowed to do that on Wikipedia.

However, I think the solution here is to get a third party involved, even though I know exactly what the outcome has to be because all the things that you are saying are identical to numerous other occasions when this issue has been raised for various lists of castes. We have various dispute resolution methods here and I am loathe to suggest one because I've had people accuse me of making biassed suggestions in the past. Would you like to choose a method? - Sitush (talk) 20:39, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Here's a third opinion: 14..., if you don't like the rule that requires verification, you will need to propose that the rule be changed. The rule itself is WP:NLIST, which is a part of [[WP:Notability (people}]]. The correct place to start such a discussion would thus be on WT:Notability (people). You should note, though, that this is a fairly long-standing policy, built on a combination of our core policies of requiring verification of claims (WP:V) and our extra-stringent rules on living people (WP:BLP). I'm not sure you'll have much success, but you're welcome to try. It would be nice if you notify us here if you do attempt such an argument; I, for one, would strongly oppose any change to WP:NLIST. Qwyrxian (talk) 01:56, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Please add that the surname Reddy is found mostly in County Kildare, Ireland. They have no links to India and the surname Reddy is also found in Scotland Jim97 (talk) 11:35, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 March 2017

Ajithkumar23 (talk) 17:09, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

[Umesh Reddy] --serial rapist

Done Primefac (talk) 17:18, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 August 2017

This is supposed to be a list of famous & accomplished Reddy's .But u guys have a name of 'Umesh Reddy' a serial killer which makes this whole list a shame!! Why are killers entertained is this glorious list!! Umesh Reddy 124.123.56.54 (talk) 07:46, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Not done: as per WP:CENSOR. regards, DRAGON BOOSTER ★ 08:02, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Update

Y. S. Jaganmohan Reddy, leader of the YSR Congress party

He is now the chief minister. Please update. Inukollu (talk) 03:18, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Looks like that's already the case. Primefac (talk) 12:31, 21 September 2019 (UTC)