Talk:Reckitt and Sons

Sources

Note Reckitt is a reliable source- eg examples of use as a reference:

A Critique of Nicotine Addiction

By Hanan Frenk, Bassam Tabbara, Reuven Dar, Abdallah Tabbara, Alberto Sangiovanni-Vincentelli

Scale and Scope: The Dynamics of Industrial Capitalism

By Alfred Dupont CHANDLER, Takashi Hikino, Alfred D Chandler

Rowntree and the Marketing Revolution, 1862-1969

By Robert Fitzgerald

The strategy and structure of British enterprise

By Derek F. Channon

British Management Thought (Routledge Revivals): A Critical Analysis

By John Child

International Directory of Company Histories, Volume 91

Jay P. Pederson

Prof.Haddock (talk) 13:39, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Why is A Critique of Nicotine Addiction relevant here? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:26, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Abusive behaviour by User:PrinceSulaiman

The editor added a speedy deletion tag with no good reason. The article gives multiple reasons for notability eg

• Founder with another firm of Reckitt and Colman, later Reckitt Benkiser
• Originator of Dettol, Brasso, Windolene and other historically well known worlwide brands
• Deep and obvious association with James Reckitt and Thomas Ferens
• Builder of The Garden Village, Kingston upon Hull

These can be found easily by reading the article

I have made a complaint about this [1]

There is no explanation for a speedy delete tag other than bad faith.Prof.Haddock (talk) 15:22, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Contested deletion

This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because...

See section above - multiple reasons given.

Also in the section above that there is a list of multiple reliable sources that reference the topic.

All of which has been ignored by the proposing editor Complaint made about the editor at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Abuse_of_speedy_deletion_tag --Prof.Haddock (talk) 15:30, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Speedy tag removed.

• http://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Reckitt_and_Sons
• http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ww1lit/gwa/document/9600/8449
• http://apps.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=050-dra618629&cid=-1#-1

OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 15:32, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Sources again

The Reckitt book - is a good source - see first section above #Sources.

• Grace's Guide http://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Reckitt_and_Sons takes its information , from http://www.hullwebs.co.uk/content/l-20c/industry/reckitts/reckitts.htm , which is an obvious copypaste (and a copyvio) from Reckitt and Colmans website - not a good source.
• http://www.rb.com/rb-worldwide/rb-history is the website of a commercial successor - they are not always reliable - usually by omission rather than inaccuracy. It is very likely that both are using the exact same book as their source.

Like the authors listed above I picked a good source for the basic information - this does not mean that the article is complete, or that nor further sources are needed. Further information from other sources would be needed to improve the article.

However extra sources are not needed for the non-controversial basic information already present.

What is needed is alternative sources with new information.. Prof.Haddock (talk) 16:48, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

It could be a copyvio only if this article has been copied from their website. By far, they are more reliable than the primary sources that you had added, for getting rid of {{Primary}} tag, needed to add those other sources. Makes it easier to establish WP:NOTABILITY. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 16:54, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

The The National Archives (United Kingdom) [2] link clearly states it is using the Basil Reckitt book as its source. See end of text in link.

same for the ODNB - source - uses the same book as a source - listed at the end.Prof.Haddock (talk) 17:04, 12 July 2014 (UTC)