Talk:Reborn (song)/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Zmbro (talk · contribs) 23:18, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Grabbing this like we agreed on. Will get to it this weekend :-) – zmbro _(talk) 23:18, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

• Do we have recording dates or genres available?

• Not that I could find, sadly; the closest thing to a genre was the "anthemic" classification, which obviously can't go in the infobox. --K. Peake 18:21, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

• Damn that's a huge shame. But yeah you're right. – zmbro _(talk) 18:31, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

• Since Cudi is one half of the duo you really don't need to use "Kid" for every use, at least imo

• In the context of the duo's article or the album one you would be right, but for song articles I don't think this is correct since it's only his stage name and this has not come up in any of the other reviews. --K. Peake 18:21, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

• Rest looks good for now

Background and recording

• "at the time he first met Kid Cudi in 2007," → "at the time when he first met Kid Cudi in 2007,"
• "West did not contribute to the production of" → "West did not contribute any production to"

•  Done for the above --K. Peake 18:21, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

• Could you add a photo of Cudi and West here?

• Is this really needed, as three pieces of media are already used to illustrate the article? --K. Peake 18:21, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

• Yeah I that makes sense. – zmbro _(talk) 18:31, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Composition and lyrics

• No explicit genres present?

• Unfortunately not, per my earlier comment. --K. Peake 19:26, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

• "Kid Cudi's single "Pursuit of Happiness" (2009)" → "Cudi's 2009 single "Pursuit of Happiness"

•  Partly done did not change to Cudi per earlier comment --K. Peake 19:26, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

• "delivers the first verse of the song." → "delivers the first verse."

•  Not done the most recent time "the song" has been written by this point is the Financial Times sentence --K. Peake 19:26, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Release and promotion

• Link Pete Davidson
• "with her cover altering the original's composition somewhat." Kinda vague and non-encyclopedic. I'd be more specific without making the caption too long, or just remove this entirely.

•  Done --K. Peake 19:26, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Critical reception

• " with them often praising the lyrical content." → " with many praising the lyrical content."
• " in his opinion" – remove this. Having reviews like this are always implied to be their opinions so stating it is redundant.

•  Done for the above --K. Peake 19:26, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

• Link GQ?

•  Not done I have already wikilinked it earlier in the article --K. Peake 19:26, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

• What's The Line of Best Fit and is it an RS? Never heard of it

• It is an online magazine, whose reviews are frequently cited by Metacritic and AnyDecentMusic?, so I do not see any lack of reliability. --K. Peake 19:26, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

• Link Billboard?

•  Not done per earlier comment --K. Peake 19:26, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

• After reading RS's review, I'm surprised I didn't see more people call it repetitive. I always thought towards the end it got repetitive so it's good to know someone else saw it this way as well.

• Very interesting to hear your thoughts; I love the song but do feel it goes on for ages! --K. Peake 19:26, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

• Accolades section looks good

Commercial performance

• "debuted at number 39 on the US Billboard Hot 100.[59] By doing so, it stood as the highest"; too many words, try "debuted at number 39 on the US Billboard Hot 100,[59] making it the highest"

•  Done and changed Hot 100 to "the chart" --K. Peake 19:26, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

• Rest looks good

Credits and personnel

• Move the "credits adapted" part to the top.

•  Not done when recording locations are backed up by other sources at the top, the liner notes should be cited lower down

• Shouldn't West & Cudi have "vocals" next to their names?

•  Not done liner notes do not mention this and it is already sourced as a song by the duo --K. Peake 19:26, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Charts

• Looks good

Certifications

• Looks good

References

• Would ref 10 be an RS?

• Yes; take a look at WP:RSPYT. --K. Peake 19:26, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

• Is ref 11 reliable?

• Yes, read the about page to get an understanding of why. --K. Peake 19:26, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

• Is ref 29 reliable?

• This is an online magazine that is used for reviews compiled by Metacritic and AnyDecentMusic?, so I do not see any evidence it is not reliable. --K. Peake 19:26, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

• Is ref 43 reliable? (I'm not trying to be annoying, I just genuinely haven't heard of many of these pubs)

• It is an American media platform that includes coverage of covers concerts and festivals, which seems totally reliable. --K. Peake 19:26, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Final thoughts

• This one might be your best written article I've reviewed yet. Also, personal thanks for bringing this one up to standard. When KSG came out, I started many of its song articles, including this one. After seeing you bring "4th Dimension" and "Cudi Montage" (both of which I also started) up to standard, I always wondered if you'd ever get around to this one. Also, hard to believe your first edit on this song was this. Should be passed in no time :-) – zmbro _(talk) 17:01, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

• Zmbro Thank you for your comments, I am amazed with how far I've come and I actually do plan on bringing the album to a GT soon, as only "Freeee (Ghost Town, Pt. 2)" is left to become a GA. I will address the concerns shortly, but it appears you have forgotten to place this onhold for now. --K. Peake 18:17, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

• Whoops my bad. – zmbro _(talk) 18:31, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

• Zmbro It is fine, I have responded to everything above! Also, I would recommend using the articlehistory template like I do for GAs. --K. Peake 19:26, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

• Sweet this looks like a ✓ Pass to me. Yeah I feel like I should use a template but I keep getting lazy lol. Maybe next time :-) – zmbro _(talk) 19:37, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

• Zmbro I will update it for you, sweet that I've easily passed 200 reviews by now isn't it? --K. Peake 19:46, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

• Yeah it really is cool man. Keep up the great work. – zmbro _(talk) 19:49, 6 February 2021 (UTC)