Talk:Rebecca Lee Crumpler/GA1

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Reviewer: SusunW (talk · contribs) 16:56, 10 April 2020 (UTC) I'll do this one CaroleHenson. You know I am slow, but I'll get through it as quickly as I can.

Hello! Thanks so much for taking this on! I don't think you are so at all, SusunW. It takes time, it's the nature of the beast. This is one of my favorite articles, so I am really looking forward to sprucing it up!–CaroleHenson (talk) 18:36, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Photos

• Need more info on Joy Street photo, page number of book is 16 but it says the source is the LOC. Need to confirm with LOC no author known, when it was published (2004 book publication is only valid PD if you can prove the photo was never published before 2003 and that it dates to before 1900), and add a US PD tag.

I removed the image. I couldn't find the image at the Library of Congress. I added a parenthetical statement that it's on the Boston Women's Heritage Trail with a citation (from the caption).–CaroleHenson (talk) 19:01, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

• Correct date on A Book of Medical Discourses, it was published per the image in 1883.

Yes, I see 1883 in the intro, in the section about the book, and the citation. Where does the date need to be corrected?–CaroleHenson (talk) 19:01, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

On Commons in the "Summary" section. It says 1895, which is her year of death, not when it was published. SusunW (talk) 19:07, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Gotcha!  Done–CaroleHenson (talk) 20:46, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

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Lede

• Phrase primarily for poor women and children should follow medicine, not Boston.

I cannot believe I did that, it's one of my pet peeves. Thanks for finding it!  Done–CaroleHenson (talk) 19:10, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

• Link racism and sexism.

 Done–CaroleHenson (talk) 19:10, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

• The structure of the 2nd paragraph is a bit confusing. Did she have something to do with recruiting medical students or funding for schools? Possibly The great need for medical providers encouraged other black people to join the medical profession. Black charitable organizations and white missionary organizations provided funding for the first black medical schools should precede her entering medical school?

Well, she was a leader / pioneer, she didn't ride the wave, she helped create the wave. I removed it until or if I can find a source that mentions that she was a leader of the growth of African American physicians.–CaroleHenson (talk) 19:10, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

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Copyvio

• Earwig shows a high confidence of violation with this article published in February 2017. Going to the history of our article in January 2017, and physically doing a line by line comparison, it is clear that target health virtually copied what was in the existent WP article. Similarly the high confidence of violation with After School Region 3 blogspot published on 14 February 2014, shows it is a word for word borrowing of the WP article as it appeared on 11 February 2014. The high incident report on Changing the Face of Medicine's site is related to names and direct quotes. Based on this analysis, the WP article preceded those that mirror its information and there do not appear to be copy violations.

Thanks for your thorough efforts!–CaroleHenson (talk) 19:13, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Early life

• Insert page number 23 for Fay as a source.
• After "infirm neighbors", flip sourcing to numerical order.

Both  Done–CaroleHenson (talk) 19:16, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

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Nursing and medical school

• Insert page number 23 for Fay as a source, the page number needs to be inserted for this reference throughout the article.

 Done–CaroleHenson (talk) 19:22, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

• Each paragraph should clearly identify the subject for the first time. In Due to her talent, she replace "she" with Crumpler.

 Done–CaroleHenson (talk) 19:22, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

• Lee Crumpler graduated is confusing. We do not know who this is. In the previous section you told us only that Davis and Crumpler were the same. (It's why I always write chronologically and weave the personal stuff in. It doesn't matter to me if you do that, but we do need to know who Lee is before you start using that term).

 Done–CaroleHenson (talk) 19:22, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

• She was the first African-American woman in the United States to earn the degree, and the only one to graduate from New England Female Medical College is very close paraphrasing. Can you reword or quote it directly?
• In the early 1870s, Crumpler attended the elite West Newton English and Classical School in Massachusetts,[4][11] where she was a "special student in mathematics." Seems to dangle as isn't really related to her medical training, nor is it in chronological order. Perhaps it is better placed at the beginning of "Educator" section?

Yes, that is better.–CaroleHenson (talk) 19:22, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

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Physician

• Move the phrase primarily for poor African-American women and children to follow medicine.

I broke it into two sentences so it's not worded the same as in the Lede.–CaroleHenson (talk) 19:44, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

• By the time she, replace "she" with Crumpler.

 Done–CaroleHenson (talk) 19:44, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

• Why is Joy Street significant? Perhaps you should tell us that she moved to Joy Street? (Pfatteicher in Gates, et al says she lived at 67 Joy Street.)

I reworded the small paragraph. Does that work?–CaroleHenson (talk) 19:44, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

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Educator

• Any idea what she taught?

I have no idea. I am guessing it could be mathematics and/or literature, for which she was skilled and interested, but I have no idea. I searched for this extensively when working on the article and I just went searching through old school yearbooks on Ancestry to see if I could find her listed as a teacher, but no luck.–CaroleHenson (talk) 20:04, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

No problem, just curious. This section is done.

A Book of Medical Discourses

• In 1883, she, replace "she" with Crumpler

 Done–CaroleHenson (talk) 20:07, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

• At the time, many early African-American authors have had their writings and books include prefaces and introductions that have a white male sounding authentication." Perhaps: At the time, writings and books by African-American authors had prefaces and introductions written in the style of white male writings to give them authentication.

 Done–CaroleHenson (talk) 20:07, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

• and is also should be past tense, was also.

 Done–CaroleHenson (talk) 20:07, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

This section is done.

Personal life

• While living in Charlestown, she replace "she" with Davis (or you could use Crumpler, though that seems odd to me as that came after Lee).

To avoid confusion in this section, for these edits, I am going to use her full name at the time of marriage. See what you think. Here it's Rebecca Davis.–CaroleHenson (talk) 20:16, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

• Insert comma after 1852

 Done–CaroleHenson (talk) 20:16, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

• She married Arthur Crumpler replace "she" with Lee.

Here I used "Rebecca (née Davis) Lee"–CaroleHenson (talk) 20:16, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

• Crumpler was a former fugitive replace Crumpler with Arthur.

 Done–CaroleHenson (talk) 20:16, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

• went to Robert Adams' son Went to implies to me that they had a choice. The article about it is a bit confusing, as it says that John Adams refused to allow him to be sold and he was instead "bid in". What does that mean?

Re, "bid in" seems to be "bid in competition" with people who monopolized the auction process through some sort of agreement with the auctioneer. See this. There was a wrestling contest on the day of the estate auction between Arthur and John Adams. Arthur won a match with John Adams, who decided to keep Arthur for himself—rather than sell him. So, I am guessing it somehow played into his inheritance. And, since Arthur instigated the match, I think that there was some sort of decision made on Arthur's part to stay with the Adams family, if he could make that happen. I reworded that part a bit. See what you think.–CaroleHenson (talk) 20:44, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Looks good to me.

• where his family went same issue as above, they had no choice. Perhaps the whereabouts of those who purchased his family, or where his family were dispersed?

 Done–CaroleHenson (talk) 20:43, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

• 20 Garden Street, in what place?

Boston -  Done–CaroleHenson (talk) 20:43, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

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Further reading

• Remove the link to Anthony W. Neal's article, as it is used as a source in the article.

 Done–CaroleHenson (talk) 20:56, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

I think that's it. Will go back and check your answers. You are as fast as a bunny :) SusunW (talk) 20:18, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Lol! You are funny! I am done now.–CaroleHenson (talk) 20:55, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Sorry for the time delay. My gardener, who is stuck at home because of our "stay at home" order, wanted my recipe for avocado pesto. I had to type it out, in Spanish (with the autocorrect changing it all grrrrrrrrr) so his wife can make it. Fortunately, everything in it is in the garden. :) SusunW (talk) 21:10, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Avocado pesto, oh my that sounds amazing! I have an avocado that is just today ripened to perfection and am going to look for a recipe myself.–CaroleHenson (talk) 21:15, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

On your page CaroleHenson--adjust the portions as you like. SusunW (talk) 21:20, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks much! And, thanks even more for the review of this article. It's now nicely polished!–CaroleHenson (talk) 21:24, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Checklist

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail: