Talk:Rebecca Anderson/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Cirt (talk · contribs) 04:59, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Good article nomination on hold

This article's Good Article nomination has been put on hold. During review, some issues were discovered that can be resolved without a major re-write. This is how the article, as of October 11, 2015, compares against the six good article criteria:

1. Well written?:

1. NOTE: Please respond, below the entire review, and not interspersed throughout, thanks!
2. After below recommendations for expanding the article and moving sects around -- please consult WP:LEAD and expand lede intro sect to function fully as a standalone summary of the entire article's contents.
3. Suggest paraphrasing the quote at the end of the first paragraph in sect Miss Oregon 2014.
4. Vying for Miss America = suggest changing sect title to Miss America 2015 candidate.

2. Verifiable?:

1. It's a small article, so strongly recommend using fields archiveurl and archivedate to archive all hyperlinks to the Internet Archive site.
2. I saw the talk page comment about the website going down every once in a while = best to archive that to Internet Archive also, just to be on the safe side.

3. Broad in coverage?:

1. Please move sect Personal life and education to the top, and call it Early life and family, or Early life and education.
2. Then expand that sect just a tad bit more please.
3. What are her parents occupations?
4. Any siblings?
5. 19 seems like a late age to just begin entering these sorts of contests -- what did she do before then?
6. What sort of sports in high-school?

4. Neutral point of view?: Pass

5. Stable? 19 September 2015 edit by IP = what is with this edit? It looks like they added unsourced info?

6. Images?:

1. File:Miss Oregon 2014 Rebecca Anderson 141207-Z-CH590-144 (cropped).jpg = free use as product of USA government.
2. File:Miss Oregon 2014 Rebecca Anderson 140821-Z-CH590-029.jpg = free use as federal U.S. government work.

#NOTE: Please respond, below the entire review, and not interspersed throughout, thanks!

Please address these matters soon and then leave a note here showing how they have been resolved. Within 7 days, the article should be reviewed again. If these issues are not addressed by then, the article may be failed without further notice. Thank you for your work so far. — Cirt (talk) 04:59, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for your review of this article. I always welcome any chance to improve my contributions to Wikipedia.

1-3: Done.

1-4: Changed to "Miss America 2015 contestant".

2-1: In progress. Done. (Some pages are freshly added to the Internet Archive, some were already archived, and a couple (like the USA Today story) resisted archiving so WebCite was employed instead.) - Dravecky (talk) 09:15, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

2-2: In progress. Done. (Although this feels odd for an external link. It's not that the Miss Oregon site is down a lot, just that there was a brief outage once, resolved a few days later.) - Dravecky (talk) 09:15, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

3-1: In progress. Done. - Dravecky (talk) 07:56, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

3-2: In progress. Done. (...to the best of my ability. Reliably-sourced information on her life a minor is scarce and her common name makes deep-searches of Google complicated.) - Dravecky (talk) 09:27, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

3-3: In progress. Done. (Mom's an elected county treasurer, Dad works for Mom's private accounting firm as a tax consultant and also operates a wholesale nursery business.) - Dravecky (talk) 08:22, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

3-4: In progress. Done. (Yes, based on reliable sources and the Facebook pages of the subject's parents (strictly as background sourcing, not used in the actual article) she has one younger sister, Malea.) - Dravecky (talk) 08:37, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

3-5: In progress. Some young women hit the pageant circuit as soon as they can walk while others don't compete even once until halfway through college because they were recruited, spotted in an audience, or have a friend who tips them off to 'easy' scholarship money. Some spend years toiling through the Outstanding Teen and Miss programs only to win the state title after six tries and at then end of their eligibility while other win their first pageant (a local) and their second pageant (the state) and their third-ever pageant is Miss America. This diversity is one of the things that drew me to writing these article. (This particular young woman says she waited until she was "responsible enough, capable enough to be a title holder" and I've updated the article to reflect this.) - Dravecky (talk) 09:27, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

3-6: In progress. Done. (Is dance team a sport? She was also in the drama program while in high school.) - Dravecky (talk) 09:42, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

5: I have removed the IP edit in question as while I can find sourcing for the 5 winners of STEM scholarships there's no reliable listing of the finalists that I can find.

Improvements underway, per review. Will update post above as editing progresses. - Dravecky (talk) 07:49, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Done. I eagerly await your further review of this article. - Dravecky (talk) 09:45, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Everything looks good except now that you're done with all that please expand lede intro sect, per WP:LEAD, so it could conceivably function as a standalone summary of the entire article's contents, by itself. Thank you, — Cirt (talk) 19:37, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Done. (I am open to an alternative for the phrase "academic pursuits" if anybody has one.) - Dravecky (talk) 23:40, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Please try breaking lede intro sect into two paragraphs, then adding a sentence or two, or just a tad bit more to each, then should be all set. — Cirt (talk) 23:47, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Better? - Dravecky (talk) 02:18, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

A bit. Still a tad bit skimpy but (hopefully) over time as more coverage is given about the subject matter in WP:RS secondary sources, you'll watch over it and expand it just a bit more. Passes as GA. — Cirt (talk) 02:22, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Passed as GA

Passed as GA. My thanks to Dravecky for being so polite and responsive during the GA Review process. — Cirt (talk) 02:22, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

And thank you for your clear review and fast replies. It's been a pleasure. - Dravecky (talk) 04:35, 12 October 2015 (UTC)