Talk:Ranks of the Royal Australian Air Force

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Hawkeyebasil in topic New Position - ADF SENIOR ENLISTED LEADER

Are the rank codes for the non-commissioned ranks accurate? he WO1/WOFF is classified as an E8 whereas the British ranks of the same name would be OR9/E9. --LONDON 09:08, 10 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

The page is incorrect.
An LAC and Able Seaman are not equiv to a LCPL. A LCPL is an NCO, the other two are not.
Further, the US equivalences are incorrect. The first rank that is an NCO in the US system is an E4, thus LCPL equates to E4, not E2. 130.194.13.105 (Talk) 10:01, 24 January 2007

That depends on what US service you are talking about. In the US Army, two ranks are present in paygrade E4, Specialist and Corporal. A Corporal is an NCO but a Specialist is not and a Corporal holds authority over a Specialist. In the US Air Force, an E4 is a Senior Airman, which is not an NCO (though they can be Military Training Instructors at USAF basic training). However, until the mid-90's the USAF also had the grade of "Sergeant" in E4, which was an NCO and ranked above a Senior Airman. In the US Marine Corps an E4 is a Corporal, which is an NCO. In the US Navy and US Coast Guard an E4 is a Petty Officer 3rd Class, which is an NCO. Since Australian ranks are British-derived, it is difficult to equate them with US ranks. Another example: in the US armed forces, Warrant Officers are an intermediate grade between NCO's and commissioned officers who are usually experts in a technical field, except in the USAF, which does not use Warrant Officers. Warrant Officers in the US forces are saluted and referred to as "Sir" or "Ma'am" by enlisted ranks, and as "Mister" or "Miss" in everyday usage. RAAF WO's are more like USAF Senior and Chief Master Sergeants, AFAIK.--MarshallStack 21:03, 26 March 2007 (UTC)Reply

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New Position - ADF SENIOR ENLISTED LEADER edit

A new position is to be created comparable to that of the SEAC to the US and UK and will sit above the three service Warrant Officers. Also not sure if this will be a E10 rank or created as E11 on the Defence HR system. No details yet on what the Insignia will look like or if the title will change to something like Warrant Officer of the Australian Defence Force (WO-ADF) to follow current trend or Senior Enlisted Advisor to the CDF (SEAC-A) Hawkeyebasil (talk) 03:26, 13 February 2023 (UTC)Reply