Talk:Rajputana Rifles

Latest comment: 3 years ago by NitinMlk in topic Class composition of Rajputana Rifles

WikiProject class rating edit

This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 19:28, 9 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

Reference links to Cites edit

  • Mackenzie, Compton. (1951). Eastern Epic. Chatto & Windus, London.
  • Sharma, Gautam. (1990). Valour and Sacrifice: Famous Regiments of the Indian Army. Allied Publishers. ISBN 817023140X.
I am moving these here from the References section for conversion to cites -Mayuresh 22:54, 17 January 2010 (UTC)Reply

Class composition of Rajputana Rifles edit

HinduKshatrana, first of all, Rajputana Rifles is a fixed class regiment of Rajputs and Jats. And they are recruited in equal proportion. Here are a few relevant sources:

The present day infantry, in all, has 29 regiments, with varying numbers of battalions under them. These include "fixed" ones like Rajputana Rifles (an equal mix between Rajputs and Jats) ...

Fixed Class: Examples are Rajputana Rifles where primarily Jats and Rajputs are recruited and formed as ethnic sub-units too.

The PIL mentions 22 such infantry regiments. Some of these are: ...
Punjab Regiment: Sikhs, Dogras
Madras Regiment: South Indian classes
Rajputana Rifles: Jats & Rajputs
Sikh Regiment: Jutt Sikhs
Sikh Light Infantry: Mazhhabi & Ramdasia
Garhwal Rifles & Garhwal Scouts: Garhwalis

I have an academic source, and it also supports the details of the above sources:

p. 7
Since independence, for instance, the Punjab Regiment (which recruits mainly Sikhs and Dogras) has increased from five to twenty-nine battalions while the Rajputana Rifles (mainly Jats and Rajputs) has increased from six to twenty-one battalions.
pp. 133–134
To create a ready-made feeling of history and fighting spirit, the new battalions were often reraisings of specific numbered battalions that had been disbanded between 1945 and 1947, whose battle honors and traditions could be used to inspire the men. The Punjab Regiment for instance added eight new battalions to its existing nine battalions between 1962 and 1967, and all these new units were single-class companies with a mix of Jats and Dogras (Raghavan n.d.). The Rajputana Rifles similarly increased in size, adding seven new single-class company battalions (typically 50 percent Rajputs and 50 percent Jats) to its existing eight battalions between 1962 and 1966 (Sethna and Valmiki 1983).15

And the source cited by you in this edit is no different. Here is the relevant quotation from the page cited by you:

The Indian Army has three types of Regiments:-
Slngle Class Like the Sikhs, Dogras, Jats or Garhwalis. These have troops from a single class.
Fixed Class Regiments like the Grenadiers, Rajputana Rifles, Rajputs or Kumaonis have fixed ethnic groups, viz Dogras and Jats, Jats and Rajputs, or Ahirs and Kumaonis or Dogras and Sikhs or Rajputs and Gujars etc.

It is giving examples of multiple fixed class regiments and multiple combinations without any specific order. Still, Rajputana Rifles appears at the second spot among the regiments and "Jats and Rajputs" appears at the corresponding spot in the combination examples, which is correct. Ahirs appear only once in the list and that too with Kumaonis – a combination applied at Kumaon Regiment, which is also a fixed class regiment, and is listed in the above source as "Kumaonis".

So please stop adding Ahir here unless you can provide a source which states that Rajputana Rifles is a fixed class regiment of Ahirs and Rajputs, or Ahir and Jats. And I am sure you won't find any reliable source for such misinformation. - NitinMlk (talk) 19:23, 25 July 2020 (UTC)Reply