Talk:Rainbow Bridge (album)

Latest comment: 4 years ago by Isento in topic Compilation

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BetacommandBot (talk) 22:58, 13 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

Album chronology chain

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The dates for Hendrix's album releases are:

  • The Cry of Love: 3/71
  • Rainbow Bridge: 10/71
  • Hendrix in the West: 2/72

Different countries have different dates and releases. For example, in the UK, Experience (8/71) preceded Rainbow Bridge (11/71), which was followed by Isle of Wight (11/71) (released by different record companies, unclear which was earlier). Refer to Jimi Hendrix discography and Jimi Hendrix posthumous discography, which have references. —Ojorojo (talk) 16:10, 26 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

Compilation

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I removed the "Rainbown Bridge is a compilation", and changed to "posthumous album". Because the only fact and neutral view is that Rainbow Bridge is a posthumous album by Hendrix. Is it a compilation? Depending on the definition of "compilation" it might be, but unless we are talking about typical compilations, (like Greatest Hits, The Best Of, Smash Hits in Hendrix's case) those definitions are usually vague and arbitrary. For example. before my edition, the Rainbow Bridge article quoted a book to support that Rainbow Bridge is a compilation. If we look at the source, the writer is asserting that despite the effort to create an album that worked as a unit, there is a wide range of dates, sessions and involve multiple band lineups, so it is "almost like a greatest hits album", and the release was intended to "milk as much money as possible". As we can see this is his opinion on the subject. His definition of compilation is vague an arbitrary. Based in this guidelines many "studio" albums released during past 60 years would fall under the "compilation" category. For example, we can't put "this is the best Jimi Hendrix album ever" on an "Electric Ladyland" article, even if we quote 50 books where people claim thats the best Hendrix album, because thats against the Neutral Point Of View (NPOV) standard. Also, an article must be precise and explicit and clear, to avoid ambiguity, misunderstanding and to be free of vague generalities and half-truths. "Compilation" for many people mean albums that are officially intended to be viewed as such, like Greatest Hits as I mentioned before, or compilation of "never seen before" material, like Hendrix's purple box set or West Coat Seattle Boy, so putting the album is that category create a lot of confusion, specially because Rainbow Bridge was not released as an compilation, but as an "official soundtrack album" consisted by songs never released before. We should also note that many albums by other artists with the same core idea didn't receive the "compilation" tag here on wikipedia. For example, Bob Dylan's Basement Tapes is an album with stuff that were recorded between 1967 and 1968, and were overdubbed in 1975 and released that year, and it's considered a "Bob Dylan's studio album". If someone want to bring the "compilation/not compilation" discussion into the article, thats okay, but that should be in the middle of the article, with a specific sessions to discuss that, and it must follow NPOV guidelines. Thats it. "Rainbow Bridge is a compilation album by Jimi Hendrix" is the right way to describe that album here on wikipedia. Valverde.pr (talk) 17:02, 7 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

See compilation album. The definitions are there. Among them, "If by one artist, then generally the tracks were not originally intended for release together as a single work...", like this album. There is also verification in this article's "Background" section, attributed to a source that says, "the Rainbow Bridge album, which despite its title was not a soundtrack to the film of the same name. Instead, it was a rather hodgepodge compilation of 1968–1970 studio material (and one live track) from various sources...". There are two sources, one of which you removed, that verify it is a compilation album. isento (talk) 12:44, 7 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
It may have been marketed as a soundtrack. And even if it was an actual soundtrack, that wouldn't mean it's mutually exclusive from being a compilation. Which in this case it is, according to two high-quality sources. Which is what we base article content on. isento (talk) 12:46, 7 October 2020 (UTC)Reply