Talk:Quercus texana

Latest comment: 4 years ago by Plantdrew in topic Occurrence along east coast

Common names

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I propose changing the common name for this species to Nuttall's oak and Texas red oak. These are the accepted common names on well respected sites such as Flora of North America Flora, USDA Plant Profiles, and Trees of North America. According to those sources, the common name Buckley's oak (currently used in this article) applies to Quercus buckleyi (See: Flora of North America, USDA Plant Profiles, and Trees of North America. Personally, I do not like the common name Texas red oak for current-day Q. texana, since this species occurs mostly to the east of Texas and that common name was only adopted because of the Q. texana/Q. buckleyi misidentification. But I also concede that it is important to have the Wikipedia article agree with the current-day literature. And yes, the Q. buckleyi page should also be revised based on this discussion. Comments please. Pinethicket (talk) 21:30, 4 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

  • I agree wholeheartedly that this common name is simply wrong. The only people who've ever used the common name of Buckley's Oak for this species are uninformed taxonomists. Buckley's Oak of course is a common name for what used to be Quercus texana, which is now Q. buckleyi. I have yet to meet anyone who lives within the native range of this species which calls it anything other than Nuttall's Oak. A few botanists, including the authors of Flora of North America, insist on using Texas Red Oak as a common name, but like I said, I've asked people in Louisiana, Arkansas, Missouri, and even East Texas what they call this oak, and everyone says Nuttall's Oak. That's not scientific, but it does say something about what the common name for this oak is. Outside of its native range this oak is almost exclusively called Nuttall's Oak and the same is true in the horticultural world. The scientific name change is the problem which lead to scientists to also change the common name associated with this oak and that's not logical, scientific, nor accurate in my opinion. I haven't looked very hard, but so far I haven't found one scientific work which calls this species anything other than Nuttall's Oak before the scientific name change occurred. So, I too propose changing the common name on this page to Nuttall's Oak and maybe putting Texas Red Oak as a secondary name. Kmanblue (talk) 18:26, 9 May 2010 (UTC)Reply
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Occurrence along east coast

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Does Quercus texana Buckley really occur in North Carolina as commonly as was indicated in the added reference, or is this a misidentification and/or referring to some other species, like Quercus palustris? see page in the reference: G. Pinchot & W. W. Ashe's 1891 "Timber trees and forests of North Carolina". For Q. texana, there is a single county near the east coast on BONAP, nothing on USDA PLANTS, and nothing in FNA. —Hyperik talk 22:16, 4 January 2020 (UTC)Reply

My understanding is that the name Q. texana has long been confused/misapplied. I wouldn't trust any source that isn't very recent. Plantdrew (talk) 23:21, 4 January 2020 (UTC)Reply