Talk:Province of Canada

Name

Why was it called the Province of Canada? What meaning did the word "province" have at the time? Chocoholic2017 (talk) 23:40, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

See Province. - BilCat (talk) 08:07, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Oops, I should have thought of that. Chocoholic2017 (talk) 17:39, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

No worries. I briefly scanned that article and thought it adequately covered your question. If you have more questions, you can probably ask on its talk page. - BilCat (talk) 00:44, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

Flag (again) and Coat of Arms

I've reverted the deletion of the Union Jack and the Royal Arms from the infobox. The flag issue was a heated one and eventually the Union Jack was settled on, so should not be changed without raising it here at the Talk page. As for the Royal Arms, that was the symbol used by the Governor General of Canada on proclamations published in the Journal of the Legislative Assembly (see pp v to ix at the link), and by the Legislative Assembly itself on its statutes (frontispiece and p. 3). It seems to be the appropriate contemporary emblem, and is not "spam". Hence I've reverted. If there are opposing views, please let's discuss here. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 00:18, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

TrailBlzr has twice deleted the Union Jack and Royal Arms. I've restored once, for the reasons already given. TrailBlzr suggests the onus is on me to demonstrate consensus, although TrailBlzr is the one deleting, which I find puzzling. In any event, on the issue of consensus, consensus can arise from Talk page discussion, and from long-practice. The Talk page discussions show the flag issue became heated, but going back 500 edits to 2012, the usage of the Union Jack is well-established. There were some suggestions for the Red Ensign, but the consensus appears to have been for the Union Jack. Either way, that supports the use of British symbols for the Province at that time. With respect to the Royal Arms, they have been included in the infobox since December of 2015 and appear to have been accepted consistently since then. That is also consistent with the use of the Royal Arms by the Governor General and the Legislative Assembly, as demonstrated in the links I've already posted. Contemporary usage by the Government of the Province is the best evidence of the symbols we should use, in my opinion. Finally, I think something more than an allegation of "spam", without any historical analysis, is needed to justify changing the current symbols. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 02:59, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

Should never edit parts of articles you have no clue about. READ ME.--Moxy 🍁 03:14, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

There is a difference between claiming the Union Jack was used in the Province of Canada (it was), and claiming it was the official flag of the Province of Canada. If it is kept in the infobox, it should be made clear it had only de facto status. TrailBlzr (talk) 04:15, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

I'm not following your position, sorry. The Province of Canada was a British colony, created by an Act of the British Parliament, with a local government initially formed by a governor appointed by the British government, and defended by the British Army, and use of the British flag was just "de facto"? I think you're going to need a good reliable source to defend that position. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 11:51, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

Map

Please upload a map of the United Province of Canada 2600:100C:A112:99FE:7C7D:2DBA:B464:5416 (talk) 18:58, 23 July 2023 (UTC)

"United Canadas"

Is there any support in the historical record for referring to the political entity as the "United Canadas" (those two words exclusively) as is stated in the opening sentence? 135.23.69.5 (talk) 10:26, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

The historical record is mixed. The formal name of the new entity, as set out in the Union Act 1840, was the "Province of Canada". However, that name was not always used, and there were informal usages, such as the "Union of the Canadas", the "United Canadas", and the "United Province of Canada". For example, one of the main texts on the new provinces was J.M.S. Careless, The Union of the Canadas — The Growth of Canadian Institutions, 1841–1857 (Toronto: McClelland and Stewart, 1967). Given the different terms that were used, it makes sense to include them in the opening, and then use the official "Province of Canada" in the article. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 14:50, 1 July 2024 (UTC)