Talk:Profession

Left out a "rule"?

Professionals are paid by the person or entity they work on behalf of. e.g. a doctor is paid by their patient, a lawyer by his client. If, in the case of "social work" the client is not the one doing the paying, problems like a conflict of interest arise. Why is this 'payment by client' not in the list of rules? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.175.252.113 (talk) 10:42, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

... it's hardly universal. Many professions, including those mentioned here, can exist when paid for by the state, the client for their work, to act for third parties (patients, litigants/defendants, citizens) who then isn't the client in the fiscal sense. For example, an English doctor is paid by the NHS to be a doctor, and is expected to act professionally towards her patients, her colleagues and other members of the medical profession. The patients are service users, and receive the benefit of the service. They may or may not have actually paid for it. Matt Whyndham (talk) 15:24, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

I agree. One of the skills of profesionals is to manage this triangle. Difficulties are particularly acute when the patient has little or no voice - a child, an elderly stroke patient, a non-verbal autistic person, a foreigner without language or translator... or an animal (in the case of veterinary work). DS0022 (talk) 09:55, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Eid fazer Alex Macuácua (talk) 20:54, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Professional

Professional 182.189.211.224 (talk) 15:47, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

Business

Business is busy+ ness in which all organisation people engaged in business.A business activity involves production and exchange of good or services so as to earn. profit motive is necessary for continuity of the business.business involves dealing with various good and services. 103.82.101.115 (talk) 03:40, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Professional Associations - inappropriate reference

In the section Etymology, the sentence " liberal professions are professions that require specialized training and that are regulated by "national governments or professional bodies"." (my bold) shows an inappropriate reference. While "professional bodies" may be appropriate, the intenral link goes to "professional associations" which are correctly IMHO described as "a group that usually seeks to further a particular profession, the interests of individuals and organisations engaged in that profession, and the public interest."

While regulators are very concerned with the public interest, they should not be at all concerned with furthering "the interests of individuals" - the reverse, they are concerned with keeping individuals' conduct within ethical bounds and disciplining them if they are in breach. This subject is addressed in some detail in a page on Professional Ethics (which I haven't examined yet).

So I recommend removing the link to "professional associations" for the meantime and I will check if a link to Professional Ethics page is more suitable. DS0022 (talk) 09:51, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Lack of Coordination

The general area of professionalism seems to me to be unhelpfully split over several articles, including Professionalism, Profession, Professional Conduct, Professional, Professional Ethics, Professional Judgement and Professional Certification. While there is a lot of duplication, there are also gaps in some that are addressed by others. For instance, the response to uncertified persons working as if a professional is not mentioned in Professional Certification. There may also be some disagreements – concerning different professions, geographies and legislation traditions. How could they be better coordinated? DS0022 (talk) 10:53, 14 November 2023 (UTC)