Talk:ProCurve

I could not find anything to back up the statement about market share. This is a key piece of information that should have some third party verification. This seems like a marketing pitch - I find it hard to believe that Procurve sells more than Nortel and Cisco, regardless of the way in which it is framed. --Zigmund Snorticus (talk) 19:56, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

I've added a citation for the market share. PvtBaldrick (talk) 14:02, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Product Descriptions - Can I put in a product description. It would be in the NPOV For instance, the 3500 series of ProCurve switches is 10/100/1000 in either 24/48 port with 4 x Dual Personality ports. It has an optional 10GbE Module. ??? I would link this to the correct articles on 10/100/1000, 10GbE, etc..

It states in Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not that, "Advertising. Articles about companies and products are acceptable if they are written in an objective and unbiased style. Furthermore, all article topics must be third-party verifiable, so articles about very small "garage" or local companies are not likely to be acceptable. External links to commercial organizations are acceptable if they can serve to identify major corporations associated with a topic (see finishing school for an example). Please note Wikipedia does not endorse any businesses and it does not set up affiliate programs. See also WP:CORP for guidelines on corporate notability."

WP:CORP states, "Criteria for products and services - A product or service is notable if it meets any of the following criteria: 1. The product or service has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the company itself.

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I will not be placing in price lists or product codes, more of what each different product is , and what its main parts of are. The product itself would have a link to the international ProCurve site [www.hp.com/rnd] FOR THE RECORD, I do represent ProCurve in my day to day job in the UK. I saw this page, and wanted to make it readable, instead of a bunch of numbers. ---Jezarnold 12:42, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

OK I Posted this 5 days ago, and no-one has responded. I will now add some info, especially for ProCurves new products released today. Jezarnold 14:05, 29 August 2006 (UTC) 15:05, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

The first paragraph sounds like an ad.

Granted. The first paragraph DID sound like an Advert. Now changed. Jezarnold 16:24, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

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This is a page about ProCurve Networking NOT an advert I think moving products and training to NEW pages make sense. However, this page should NOT be an ad of what services are available to the reseller channel. It should be a page on ProCurve - including the history, controversies, small product and software list, and a See Also. It should mention its differences to other Networking Vendors, without sounding like a marketing page.

See pages on other Networking vendors such as D-Link, Cisco, 3com, Netgear & Nortel.

I will wait a few weeks for comments, and amend. Its need more information available in the public domain, about where ProCurve came from. I will also delete references to Reseller services. If a reseller wants help from ProCurve, they will contact them. Not check out a wiki page. --Jezarnold (talk) 13:14, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

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IP address 15.203.169.123 is a Hewlett Packard address.. I am going to delete the Reseller section as its completely useless to anyone who is interested in knowing about ProCurve Networking. --Jezarnold (talk) 19:16, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Advertising

I've added the {{advert}} tag because of things like:

"The HP ProCurve Open Network Ecosystem is an initiative from Hewlett Packard, that provides customers with a choice of best-in-class applications and services that integrate into your network"

and

The HP ProCurve Open Network Ecosystem is an initiative from Hewlett Packard, that provides customers with a choice of best-in-class applications and services that integrate into your network.

Unfortunately, I don't know enough about ProCurve to be able to fix the article. Thanks. --Haggis (talk) 10:46, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

I agree. Very much sounded like an advert. It has been re-written, with cites from online articles. Now Removed Advert Tag. Jez t e C 17:55, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Article name disagrees with the lead paragraph

--82.69.159.205 (talk) 11:23, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Proposal to edit this back to being ProCurve and then separately addressing HP Networking

As the previous post states, this article mixes references to ProCurve and to HP Networking. The topic is ProCurve while the lead sentence is HP Networking, and content and references are intermixed. I would like to propose the reworking of this article to re-focus this on the history of ProCurve as an entity from start to retirement of the brand, then adding a new article dedicated to HP Networking. Full disclosure is that I am a former 3Com, now HP employee, and intend to do this after I get approval from proper HP channels. I will fully reference, avoid sales/marketing language, etc. Happy to share ideas. Comments welcome. Dkhydema (talk) 23:49, 14 April 2011 (UTC) DKHYDEMA

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Page merge

This page should be merged into Hewlett Packard Enterprise Networking. There is some significant overlap between the two, and that should clear up some of the sounding like an advertisement.

The company in its current form and the family tree of acquisitions that led to it are significant and notable to the history of computing and data networking.

it may also be worthwhile to aggregate or at least cross-reference the pages of the various companies that now comprise the business. Ianbeyer (talk) 14:15, 18 March 2023 (UTC)