Talk:Prendergast (surname)

Latest comment: 10 years ago by Bhasmanath in topic Untitled

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Franklyn G. Prendergast....it's a shame nothing is here on him.

Cleaned up some bits and bobs, poor English and factoids. Namely, Strongbow was not one pf the "leading" Norman invaders of Ireland. He was the leader of the invaders. I also got rid of the "Brontegeest" reference, as it is baseless. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhasmanath (talkcontribs) 22:10, 2 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

Also removed this; "The name remains primarily distributed in and around the Dublin and Wicklow areas." Because why it "remains" is unclear, and it's historical counties of distribution would be Tipperary, Mayo, Kilkenny, and northern Waterford[1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhasmanath (talkcontribs) 21:02, 14 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

References

Brontegeest edit

It's hardly baseless. Old Irish history books identify it as a Flemish settlement near Ghent (citing Volume XLI, Third Series, of Archaeologia Cambrensis). Two of the three extant versions of the Battle Abbey Scroll have the names "Preudirlegast" or "Prenlirgast" on them, suggesting a non-Welsh origin for the name. A Jeffrey or Geoffrey de Prendergast shows up as an Anglo-Norman marcher lord in Wales in the early 12th century (presumably this would be an ancestor of the Maurice de Prendergast who brought the name to Ireland). Many of the Anglo-Norman marcher lords by this time kept locational bynames from their family seats in England or Normandy in addition to the standard patronymics, so it isn't much of a stretch. Haverfordwest was also a hotbed for Flemish settlement in Wales, and the landing spots of the earliest Norman invaders in Ireland (Waterford and Wexford) maintained a pseudo-Flemish dialect (Yola, AKA Forth-and-Bargy) well into the 19th century.

An 1887 book is hardly a more authoritative source than an 1865 scholarly journal, so it seems inappropriate to declare any content "baseless."

https://journals.library.wales/view/2919943/2996217/70