Talk:Premenstrual water retention

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Do the areola, lips, etc. change sizes periodically according to the menstrual cycle?

Wiki Education assignment: Foundations II

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 5 June 2023 and 11 August 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Kmtran, Kvalecruz, Celinetrann, Mashavod (article contribs).

Foundations II 2023 Group A,17 proposed edits

Background (Characteristics), "Red flag" Symptoms/Causes (Side effects), Treatments- Non-Pharm & Pharm, Society and Culture Kvalecruz (talk) 21:58, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

— Assignment last updated by Ainfante21 (talk) 16:29, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

Celinetrann, Mashavod, anyone else working on this page:

I am a little concerned that some of the sources might be talking about Bloating (=gas in the GI system) rather than water retention (which produces the sort of sudden weight gain that is always worrisome for someone at risk for heart failure or kidney disease, but does necessarily affect only the abdomen).

For example, the primary source on 8 weeks of aerobic exercise says "Bloating (is any abnormal gas swollen, or increase in diameter of the abdominal area)", which means that it's not about water retention. The source does mention water retention, but it doesn't say that exercise necessarily works: "Aganoffy considers aerobic exercise ineffective in water retention in athletic and non-athlete women [31]. While Stoddard et al. Showed positive effects of aerobic exercise on the clinical symptoms of PMS, such as pain and water retention [3]" – a divided opinion that does not align with the claim that's in the article presently.

Can you all please double check to make sure that all the sources used in this article are specifically about water retention and not gas retention? WhatamIdoing (talk) 04:27, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

I made some edits to direct the topic back to water retention. I removed the original sentence and added some additional references to focus more on water retention. Mashavod (talk) 18:12, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

Thank you, @Mashavod! WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:11, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

We reviewed references 1-38 to confirm that there are no duplicates and the formatting is correct. Mashavod (talk) 22:59, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

Peer Review

Peer review for premenstrual water retention Christinechon (talk) 18:15, 1 August 2023 (UTC) Alicevdang (talk) 18:34, 1 August 2023 (UTC)AlejandroChavezUCSF (talk) 18:39, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for all the peer reviews! Kmtran (talk) 22:59, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

The non-pharmacological treatment improves the articles and is achieved. However, there are two obsolete sources that are identified. Please remove if possible, thank you. The society and culture improves the article and was achieved. The overall goals for the article was met by the group in regards to these 2 sections. All sources were verified and are freely available to use.AlejandroChavezUCSF (talk) 18:44, 1 August 2023 (UTC) 1. The article is substantially improved. There was a lot of new information added to elaborate on the topic and explore the important.

2. This article was improved in all aspects. More information was added and the writing was improved to follow wikipedia's manual of style. Talk pages were used to discuss goals and a to do list. 3. This article follows wikipedia's manual of style. It has an introduction in the beginning summarizing the topic and has an article title for each subject talked about in the article such as symptoms, causes, treatment. Each article title has a subheading to further separate subjects into specific paragraphs such as overall, pharmacological and non pharmacological under treatment,.Jc ucsf (talk) 18:42, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

3. Yes, the group edits have addressed the proposed goals for article topic, including characteristics of condition, symptoms/causes, treatment approaches, as well as society and culture. The group's edits provides good and clear background information with a neutral and non-exclusive tone. For example, instead of using specific labels, the editors refer to the subjects as "people of all backgrounds", adolescents, adults, etc. The group also addresses the topic with a neutral point of view, thus excluding any personal bias towards the topic. I appreciated how the editors included both traditional Chinese and countries in the Middle East approaches to medicine under the society and culture subtopic, which gives more insight to different existing perspectives, also presenting the information in a neutral manner. Christinechon (talk) 18:49, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

These edits reflect language that supports diversity, equity, and inclusion. For example, the "Society and Culture" section recognizes that various cultures may opt to acknowledge and address premenstrual water retention differently.Alicevdang (talk) 19:03, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

The group’s edits substantially improve the article as described in the Wikipedia peer review “Guiding framework”. Writing avoided providing advice and remained fact-based and neutral point of view. Alicevdang (talk) 19:03, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

The group achieved its overall goals for improvement. This article expanded my knowledge on the topic and I thought it was very informative to address both pharmacological and nonpharmacological approaches. Alicevdang (talk) 19:03, 1 August 2023 (UTC)