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The official name is Portugal

Not Portuguese republic 2001:818:E924:D000:48C3:4C03:BDE9:47D6 (talk) 21:36, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

Per what source? The constitution appears to say otherwise. —C.Fred (talk) 22:47, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

suiiii  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.241.47.167 (talk) 23:46, 5 April 2023 (UTC) 

cristiano ronaldo

The Portuguese football legend is the most followed person on Instagram but he is also a superhero for his charitable work

Cristiano Ronaldo's family helps him stay grounded but they can also break his heart at times. The five-time Ballon d'Or winner was reduced to tears when recently shown a videotaped interview of his late father conducted in 2004, a year before his death.

While José Dinis Aveiro said he was proud of his son, Cristiano’s father explained that he’d prefer to watch the Euro 2004 championship at home rather than at the stadium in Lisbon, Portugal. “My nerves are too much. I get too anxious. I can’t do it.” Cristiano was knocked down by his father’s comments and overwhelmed with memories of growing up with an alcoholic father who died when Cristiano was 20. He regretted they never really had a proper conversation, he explained, and that his father didn’t live long enough to see Cristiano rise to fame or share in the joy of his awards. “My father, he saw nothing. He died young. But it is what it is,” Cristiano said, wiping away tears.

Arguably the greatest footballer on earth (his rivalry with Lionel Messi is the stuff of legend), Cristiano still wonders if his success was due to his father watching over him from heaven. While his home life was far from perfect, it was José Dinis Aveiro who introduced Cristiano to football - known as soccer in America - and guided him to become the man he is today. Cristiano Ronaldo is not just competitive and driven, but also anxious to improve the world for the sake of his own children and those he touches through his work with Save the Children and other charities.

Cristiano Ronaldo has never lacked in self-confidence, once telling an interviewer: “Most of the time, I inspired myself. I'm self-motivated.”

His background is the key to understanding his relentless drive, however. It was a long, difficult climb for Cristiano Ronaldo dos Santos Aveiro, born in 1985 and named after his father’s favorite actor Ronald Reagan.

He grew up in Madeira, Portugal, a volcanic island in the North Atlantic where the shops are now packed with Ronaldo football jerseys, hats, mugs, and backpacks. There’s a Ronaldo bronze statue to greet visitors at the airport - named, of course, Cristiano Ronaldo International Airport - and a CR7 Museum to display his trophies and sell miniature golden boots. When he’s not at practice or with his family, Cristiano has made philanthropy his prime focus. He is an ambassador for three major charities, Save the Children, Unicef and World Vision, and has spoken up for many more. but is he the goat?? 24.241.47.167 (talk) 23:46, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

misspelling in section eceonomy

in the last part of the section economy "earning" is misspelled as "earring" SAFT Julian (talk) 09:02, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

 Done @SAFT Julian I have made the necessary chains change to the article. Thank you for taking the time to ring bring this to our attention. —C.Fred (talk) 14:03, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

Government system?

Why is portugal a semi presidential republic? Why just not portugal to choose parliamentary system at the time of carnation revolution? Why current portuguese pm cannot visit to other countries like parliamentary pms? Thats it my for explanation and cmiiw. 2404:8000:1027:85F6:911A:DB37:E1FF:1C2E (talk) 19:48, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi there. Portugal is a Semi Presidential Republic basically just on paper, as it is written in the Constitution. In practice, it's basically a Parliamentary Republic with the Prime Minister gaving full executive powers and Parliament gaving full legislative powers. The President has the power to veto laws but it has the power, it was only used once, to dismiss the Prime Minister and dissolve Parliament if the President concludes that the "normal function of institutions" is not occuring. Besides these powers, the President has no executive or legislative powers and is more the Representative of the Portuguese State, just like the Presidents of Austria, Ireland, etc. Since 1976, the President has been losing power in successive Constitutional Reforms. Hope that answered your question.Tuesp1985 (talk) 17:01, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 April 2023

Change this link (non functional): https://www.economist.com/media/pdf/QUALITY_OF_LIFE.pdf/format=PDF

To this link (functional): https://www.economist.com/media/pdf/QUALITY_OF_LIFE.pdf Rchrd h (talk) 15:47, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

 Done M.Bitton (talk) 16:11, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 May 2023

Grammar correction. Please correct the 'rankings' for things like GDP etc. to use correct abbreviations i.e. 41th should be 41st ( forty-first)...so use 1st (first), 2nd (second), 3rd (third) , then 4th to 20th then back to 21st, 22nd, 23rd, 24th etc. 2A00:23C7:F483:1801:7C85:FD5A:AD18:C596 (talk) 19:29, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

 Done. Nthep (talk) 19:38, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

Restoration/Iberian Union Infobox

In the Infobox, in the Establishment section, the date of the Restoration of Portuguese Independence is listed but the establishment of the Iberian Union, 60 years earlier, is not. I propose adding the date of the Iberian Union, 1580, creation or delete the Restoration date. Open to discuss this idea.Tuesp1985 (talk) 17:06, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

I concur with your suggestion. The lack of the aforementioned event (the Iberian Union) given its rather huge importance in the history of Portugal seems to nullify the purpose of the dates here listed for summarizing the long and complex history of this country. Since the Iberian Union is considered a turning point in terms of the decline of Portugal as a power and its consequent end also signified the abortion of the idea of a permanently unified peninsula under one state in the future (since nominally during the union they only shared the same monarch) i think it should be included as a means to better understand the succession of significant milestones that molded the history of the modern country of Portugal. Augustusrex1210 (talk) 06:51, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi Augustusrex1210. Yes, I propose that it should be changed to something like this: Iberian Union 12 September 1580 – 1 December 1640.Tuesp1985 (talk) 16:10, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

Way too many images

This page has way too much images crammed together. It's very messy and goes against style guides. 2A00:23C7:69C9:5101:B14B:DB0C:4660:C092 (talk) 18:09, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

Government finance content moved to Economy of Portugal page?

Following the requests to organize and/or slim down the page, I propose the Government finance content to be moved to the Economy of Portugal page. The Economy content in the Portugal page already has a brief summary of the Government financial situation between 2010 and 2017.Tuesp1985 (talk) 23:59, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Structure suggestions

I asked ChatGPT 4 to produce an outline

Detailed outline collapsed

User: Write a detailed outline for a Wikipedia article on Portugal. Then asked "put that into wiki mark up" === Introduction === - Brief overview of Portugal - Mention its geographical location in Europe - Include a summary of key points covered in the article === Geography === - Location and borders of Portugal - Regions and topography - Major rivers, mountains, and natural features === History === - Prehistoric settlements - Roman and Moorish influence - Emergence as a kingdom - Age of Discoveries - Napoleonic Wars and the Peninsular War - Transition to a republic - Carnation Revolution - Modern political history === Government and Politics === - Political system (e.g., semi-presidential republic) - The head of state and head of government - Political parties and elections - Foreign relations and diplomacy === Economy === - Overview of Portugal's economy - Key industries (e.g., agriculture, manufacturing, services) - Trade and international relations - Economic challenges and reforms === Culture === ==== Language and Literature ==== - Portuguese language and dialects - Literature and notable authors ==== Visual Arts ==== - Visual arts and famous artists ==== Music and Dance ==== - Music genres (e.g., Fado, Portuguese folk music) - Dance forms and traditions ==== Cuisine ==== - Cuisine and popular dishes (e.g., bacalhau, pastéis de nata) ==== Festivals and Celebrations ==== - Festivals and celebrations === Landmarks and Tourism === - Prominent tourist destinations (e.g., Lisbon, Porto, Algarve) - UNESCO World Heritage Sites - Historical landmarks and architecture (e.g., Jerónimos Monastery, Tower of Belém) - Natural attractions (e.g., Douro Valley, Azores, Madeira) - Tourism statistics and industry === Demographics === - Population size and growth - Ethnic groups and diversity - Languages spoken - Religion and religious practices - Education and literacy rates === Education === - Educational system in Portugal - Primary, secondary, and higher education - Notable universities and research institutions === Sports === - Popular sports in Portugal (e.g., football, futsal) - Successes in international competitions (e.g., UEFA European Championship) - Notable athletes and sporting events

Bot structure with history expanded:

=== Geography ===
=== History ===
- Prehistoric settlements
- Roman and Moorish influence


- Emergence as a kingdom
- Age of Discoveries


- Napoleonic Wars and the Peninsular War
- Transition to a republic
- Carnation Revolution - Modern political history
=== Government and Politics ===
=== Economy ===
=== Culture ===
=== Landmarks and Tourism ===
=== Demographics ===
=== Education ===
=== Sports ===

Current structure:

=== Etymology ===
=== History ===
- Prehistory
- Roman Lusitania and Gallaecia
- Germanic kingdoms
- The Reconquista
- Independence
- Age of Discoveries
- Iberian Union and Restoration
- Pombaline era and Enlightenment
- Crises of the nineteenth century
- First Republic and Estado Novo
- Carnation Revolution and European integration
=== Geography ===
=== Government and Politics ===
=== Economy ===
=== Demographics ===
=== Culture ===

They're similar, because ChatGPT uses Wikipedia, amongst other sources. But these outlines provide ideas, usually showing where the current structure is bloated e.g. history, Tom B (talk) 19:06, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Way too long

This page should be improved based on England or Japan. It's a mess currently. 2A00:23C7:6989:2701:D45D:AEF4:E222:51BC (talk) 00:27, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

In response to your "Way too Long" observation, how is it that individual biographies (e.g. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Bernstein) are even longer, yet contain no similar criticism? 2804:14C:6A:9449:D1C1:F422:127E:D3D2 (talk) 14:10, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

many biographies, mostly men but there are exceptions, come in for exactly the same criticism e.g. Napoleon used to be longer but has been trimmed. Bernstein is 10,000 words so it's perhaps been trimmed since you mentioned it. You're free to go on the talkpages of the biographies? Tom B (talk) 16:58, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Commas

There are a lot of sentences beginning with "In [year]" which don't use a comma after that expression. Shouldn't it be used in English? Quite sure that's recommended, to say the least. Thanks, RodRabelo7 (talk) 06:24, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

It's recommended in American English, but this article appears to use British English which doesn't require it. Nikkimaria (talk) 12:46, 21 April 2024 (UTC)