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József körút removed at Hungary part
I've removed this sentence:
- Today, the vicinity of József körút in Budapest is known as "the porn capital of Europe".
Hungary is significant at the porn market, but it has nothing to do with József körút. On József körút there used to be a red-light area at Rákóczi tér, but on the one hand, it only meant a couple of girls waiting for guys (no shops or this kind), on the other hand, this practise was ceased a few years ago as cameras were placed at this neighbourhood. Adam78 14:38, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
Requested move
Pornography by region → Production of adult movies by region – The current title is very misleading. The article as it stands is only about videos (including internet porn videos)--not other types of porn; furthmore, its focus is not the content of the pornography itself--it is only about the production and distribution thereof. The article is more about commerce, less about arts/entertainment, and the title should reflect this. I'm certainly open to other titles such as "Adult movie industry by region" and so forth, but it should definitely be changed to something more specific than its current title.-- The Fat Man Who Never Came Back 18:00, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
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- Support. The current title is indeed misleading. Voortle 21:52, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Discussion
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- Comment: I moved the article as requested. However, I believe that the use of "film" is preferred. There does not seem to be a catch-all term, as film, movie and video could each be considered inaccurate depending on the situation, but film was chosen. Anyway, are there any objections to moving the article to Production of adult films by region to match the other articles? -- Kjkolb 03:23, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
Israel needs mention in Middle-east
Plenty of pornography in Israel, ought to be mentioned --68.72.17.212 05:47, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- If you know anything about Israeli porn, add it. It's probably not mentioned because most people don't know anything about it (cultural barriers and stuff). --Ashmodai 09:32, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
But there is more Middle Eastern pornography than just Israeli (and Azerbaijani pornography) [since when is Azerbaijan in the Middle East anyway?!]. May be it should be mentioned that most (Arab) Middle Eastern pornography is hindered by society's attitudes and inhibition towards pornography of any kind in general, especially if it involves members of their own ethnic group. --84.145.222.231 16:49, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
Was't there mention of Beurette porn not so long ago in this section? Seems it has been taken away all together. Thaum1el (talk) 00:14, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Thailand
It may be said as in the article that Thailand is one of the hubs of porn in Asia. De jure, it's illegal to sell or show any pornography in public places, but to produce it, there is no law enforced (except shooting a child porn, which is illegal everywhere in the world.) De facto, it's very easy to get one, even by a 10-year-old child in black market. The law is not strict at all, it would be strict if you want to make a porn legal, because you have to make it pass the censorship department. Generally, softcore porn is de facto compromised. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.25.85.193 (talk) 10:20, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
Why don't they "show the dick going in" in the US?
Started wondering about this after watching Superbad. Seems that all the mainstream US porn I've seen hardly ever shows it going in, they always cut to after it's already inserted. But more "amateur" stuff and stuff made for the internet shows it. Maybe it's only a law in a couple states or something? I tried searching via Google but didn't find anything, so if someone could research this and add it to the US section I'd appreciate it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.181.14.207 (talk) 04:04, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
Norway
"...after the Dutch Supreme Court unanimously acquitted a former magazine editor on 7 December 2005 for publishing unobscured hardcore pornography in 2002, it became understood that printed hardcore pornography was no longer illegal."
Why does a decision by the Dutch Supreme Court affect Norwegian law?NBSF (talk) 02:16, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
CUBA
I seem to recall that having nude photos of your girlfriend in your camera is punishable in Cuba. The laws against porn there are supposedly quite strict. I am no expert, else I would have annotated it. Paul, in Saudi (talk) 02:26, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
HONG KONG
I read in many sites in the Internet that, as in the PR China, pornography is prohibited FULLY in Hong Kong...there are articles about arrests and so on...so is it allowed or not?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.178.186.152 (talk) 23:57, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Thailand
The intro of the East Asia part says Thailand is one of the main producers of pornography, but the Thailand section of the article says it's illegal. Clarification? 82.151.81.83 (talk) 20:14, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
Brazil
"regular pornography (not involving bestiality/snuff) is legal when sold in public places (depictions of sex with animals and snuff are legal[1])" This sentence about Brazil is hugely confusing. I think it's trying to say that bestiality porn is legal to possess (and possibly to sell covertly) but illegal to sell publicly. Is that right? 86.161.110.236 (talk) 19:51, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
Pornography is LEGAL here in the Philippines
What? I live in the Philippines and I see people in internet cafes going to porno sites, and in bookstores they sell porno magazines with half nude/fully nude girls on the cover, there are porno sections in the video stores, there are Playboy Philippines, Maxim Philippines, and FHM Philippines! And there are also night clubs with sex shows where I live. But Wikipedia says it's "illegal"? I live in the Philippines and I can clearly say that pornography is PERFECTLY LEGAL. Please fix this because Wikipedia says it's "illegal" when it's actually not. Cosmo2593 (talk) 04:05, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
India
The last two sentences have not been written in proper English, but also have no citation or reference and do seem very exaggerated or maybe even incorrect for the former. The former sentence seems much more like graffiti to me. A similar statement has been written in the section for Pakistan.--MJLRGS (talk) 08:16, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
Czech Republic
Missing article on Pornography in the Czech Republic? Very notable.♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:43, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
Azerbaijan is not a part of the Middle East
Geographically Azerbaijan is partially within Europe, certainly it is unusual to call it a part of the Middle East. Culturally it fits somewhere between the two which makes it difficult to put it in either the 'Europe' section or the 'Middle East' section. Maybe a greater mind than mine will come up with a solution. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.30.233.89 (talk) 08:53, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
- No! Azerbaijan is clearly in the Middle East. CIA World Factbook locates it as: "Southwestern Asia, bordering the Caspian Sea, between Iran and Russia, with a small European portion north of the Caucasus range". And that part of Asia is the MIDDLE EAST (you may have mixed it up because Europeans call this the Near East). Culturally, I am not sure because I don't know the country, but as they seem to have 94% Muslims they don't seem very European to me. Everything is ok as it is. --138.246.7.137 (talk) 16:25, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
- Most of the people in Bosnia are Muslim too. Are you going to argue that they're part of the Asia too lol? 20:33, 14 March 2010 (UTC)me
- Bosnia has majority Christian population. Muslims never were a majority, they had 42% population at most. Serbs make 38%, and Croats are 20%. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.30.155.52 (talk) 08:08, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
- Christianity and Islam have 48% of the religious population each. But the point still stands - just replace Bosnia with Albania, where approximately 80% of the population are muslims, you can't classify a country as being asian just because its majority religion. Kalmykia - which is very near Azerbaijan - is the only majority Buddhist state in Europe, are you going to tell me that it's not in Europe, it's in the Orient, because all buddhists are in the Orient? 94.174.148.37 (talk) 07:39, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
- Bosnia has majority Christian population. Muslims never were a majority, they had 42% population at most. Serbs make 38%, and Croats are 20%. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.30.155.52 (talk) 08:08, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
- Most of the people in Bosnia are Muslim too. Are you going to argue that they're part of the Asia too lol? 20:33, 14 March 2010 (UTC)me
Had to remove my talk cuase it wasnt discussing improvments in the article. i didn't understand what the talk board was about mrthinky may 18 2010Mrthinky (talk) 23:05, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Azerbaijan is currently listed under Europe and West Asia. I know it's right there in the middle, but including it both just seems indecisive and, well, wrong. Jediknightbob (talk) 01:39, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
Australia
That first sentence seems somewhat contradictory: "It is illegal to sell obscene material in all states, however in Northwest Territory..." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.27.55.215 (talk) 07:24, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
- I rewrote the sentence. I hope it's better now. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 14:32, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
Citation For Japan Needed
In the section on japan "In 1999, the government enacted a law banning photos and videos of naked children, which were a fairly common sight in mainstream media before that time." This is certaintly a wery controversial claim, and should be removed unless a source can be cited — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.167.104.112 (talk) 20:51, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
Animal porn in Canada?
Is human on animal porn legal in Canada/Quebec? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.20.242.81 (talk) 18:42, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
Japanese pixellation
The article is missing discussion of the practice of pixellating/censoring genital areas in hardcore videos produced and distributed in Japan. This remains a standard practice, even today, and has become something of an identifying quirk in Japanese porn (both live-action and animated). When did this start, and is this legislated or a self-censorship issue? 70.72.211.35 (talk) 15:50, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
Russia
In Russia banned porn. in any form
Article 242. Illegal manufacturing and trafficking of pornographic materials or objects (In red. Federal Law of 29.02.2012 N 14-FZ)(See the text in the previous edition) 1. Illegal manufacture and (or) moving through the state border of the Russian Federation for distribution, public display or advertising or distribution, public display or advertising of pornographic materials or objects -punishable by a fine of one hundred thousand to three hundred thousand rubles or the salary or other income for a period of one to two years, or hard labor for a term not exceeding two years, or imprisonment for the same term. 2. Distribution, public display or advertising of pornographic materials or items of minors or involving a minor in pornography trafficking committed by a person eighteen years of age -punishable by imprisonment for a term of two to five years with deprivation of the right to occupy certain positions or engage in certain activities for a term up to ten years, or without it. 3. Acts stipulated in the first or second paragraph of this Article committed: a) a group of persons by prior conspiracy or by an organized group; b) with the use of mass media, including the information and telecommunication networks (including the network "Internet"); c) with the generation of income in a large scale -shall be punished by imprisonment for a term of two to six years, with deprivation of the right to occupy certain positions or engage in certain activities for a term of fifteen years, or without it.--188.32.47.195 (talk) 07:50, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
About Azerbaijan
Since it is considered art, then does that mean pornography is accessible to anyone? If so give me verification. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mackster993 (talk • contribs) 01:07, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
Europe
This article has considerably more info than Pornography in Europe yet that is the article that should contain the basic info which we can then summarize here as this article is about the regions and not about the pornography in those regions, so a lot of material will disappear from this article but none form wikipedia itself (unless I justify it for other reasons in my edit summaries♫ SqueakBox talk contribs 01:13, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
Condom requirement in Brazil
I live in Brazil and condom use is not required at all. I'm going to search for some citations about that. Anyone wants to help, be my guest.--Ace Oliveira (talk) 16:18, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
I found one http://www.agenciaaids.com.br/noticias-resultado.asp?Codigo=10242 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gecg (talk • contribs) 11:03, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
- That needs to go in the Pornography in Latin America article♫ SqueakBox talk contribs 01:14, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
Asia
We have a whole stack of info here that would be much better off at a new article, Pornography in Asia which I will create and then transfer the material to from here so that this article can then be more of a summary of porn by region that would be easily and quickly readable and with links to appropriate other articles♫ SqueakBox talk contribs 01:30, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
The real problem with this article
The real problem with this article is it is trying to be Laws regarding pornography while at the same time trying to fulfill the real purpose of its title which is to give an idea of pornography itself by region. It might be easiest just to move this article then bring back all the legal stuff I sent to articles like Pornography in Europe and completely abandon the Pornography by region title. A legal status article fits into wikipedia articles generally and can then be linked in skillfully to the main pornogrpahy article which ahs a useful section on legal issues. Any objections or other suggestion would be welcome, if it appears non-controversial will likely do it tomorrow Saturday♫ SqueakBox talk contribs 04:53, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
What happened to Belarus?
The Belarusian law declares that pornography is ILLEGAL with fines and imprisonment. But why is Belarus gray on map, instead of red?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonathankwanhc (talk • contribs) 08:36, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
¿And Korea?
Korea isn't mention here, Korea doesn't have a porn industry?, because i think it does —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.201.31.13 (talk) 21:21, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
Sorry I do not have a Wiki ID. But Pornography is illegal in South Korea. In fact some South Koreans set up pornography websites in Canada and were later arrested when they returned to Korea. During the late 90s early 2000s several sprang up, and are now all gone. I cannot currently find a reputable news article, but the situation is mentioned here: http://www.rjkoehler.com/2004/05/27/if-you-cant-make-korean-porn-in-canada-where-can-you-make-it/ That being said soft-core pornography is legal, that is the showing of female breasts, however showing penetration or gentiles is outlawed, and not like in Japan were it needs to be digitally censored, no showing whatsoever is allowed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.136.42.18 (talk) 20:23, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
- So why does the world map in this article have South Korea color-coded as green ("pornography legal")? Is this incorrect? 121.91.167.195 (talk) 13:17, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, the map is 100% incorrect. An above comment states that the showing of "gentiles" is illegal in pornographic movies, though I think having Jews in hardcore porn is also illegal(yes, this is a joke)74.134.145.218 (talk) 04:10, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
South Korea should be RED not GREEN
South Korea prohibits all pornography with strict law enforcement. the world map indication is false. it should be RED not GREEN. and Japan has one of the world's largest pornography industry. in should be GREEN not YELLOW. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jagdbf (talk • contribs) 10:48, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
Porno map is having many errors, please correct
EDIT: The map also erroneously makes it look like there are no restrictions on porn in the green areas. Child/animal porn are illegal in much of the western world and this is a restriction (one that I agree with but a restriction nonetheless). So the world should be coloured yellow instead of green, and I have no idea how to make those graphs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.216.27.93 (talk) 15:48, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
Hello, Great to have a world porno map by the way. Having said that it's containing many errors.
First of all I'm unsure what you mean by "general pornography" as this could refer to either: Softcore (typified by the american A4 Playboy magazine which began in 1952, and showing nude women posing in different ways showing off their tits and pussies). Or hardcore (typified by the swedish A5 magazine Private which began showing picture stories of men and women fucking and sucking in different positions from ca. 1970 and onwards).
If you first of all, decide on one of them, a correct map would be easier to make. That because many more countries accept softcore than hardcore.
Having said that you should "paint" these countries green as they all accept hardcore: Belgium - was there last year in Brussels and the pornoshops was full of hardcore DVDs. Greenland (the "island" west of Canada) - is under Denmark (and danish law), one of the five most liberal porno-countries in the world. Brazil - ordered two interracial fuck DVDs from a DVD shop last year. South Africa Republic - hardcore legal after the fall of Apartheid in 1994, even softcore was forbidden prior. Italy - why is Italy painted yellow, they're super-liberal in style of Danmark and Holland. Please change colour to green.
Best regards Bjarnulf, Oslo
- I would like to add to the above comment a mention of South Korea. The map clearly shows South Korea as green, indicating pornography is completely legal in South Korea. However, the Wikipedia entry "Pornography in Asia" clearly states that pornography is completely illegal in South Korea, with penalties including imprisonment for the distribution of pornography. The map needs some serious correction.74.134.145.218 (talk) 04:06, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
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Maps for Asia and Europe
I was wondering if someone could make regional maps for Pornography in Asia and Pornography in Europe showing which countries have legalized porn similar to the ones for Prostitution in Asia and Prostitution in Europe since these two regions each have their own dedicated pages. I tried to do it myself, even finding two blank maps for Asia and Europe but I could not figure it out. Can someone please make them and add them to their respective pages? AquilaXIII (talk) 01:00, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
"Fully legal"
This map is misleading, every country has laws on pornography there is no "fully legal" porn. Child, animal and snuff porn probably other things. -- GreenC 21:25, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
Nepal
Country Napall is missing in the above content.last few days ago the new rules have been applied to band porn sites n most of the porn sites are already band. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.244.189.25 (talk) 06:41, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
- There is some information about Nepal in the Pornography in Asia article. - Polly Tunnel (talk) 12:20, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
Disparity
According to this article and the map featured here, pornography is illegal in Guyana, South Sudan, and Uganda. But according to the article Legality of child pornography , child pornography is legal in those countries. So, which one is right? I think this disparity makes the information inconsistent. - Munmula (talk), second account of Alumnum 23:08, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
- I think it's because that those countries have overall ban on pornography but not specifically on child pornography. Borysk5 (talk) 07:44, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
New Zealand should be yellow
In New Zealand, urophilia porn (i.e. piss porn) is banned. All the other countries that ban urophilia are yellow, not green (as NZ currently is). Granted, most of them also ban other forms of porn (e.g. hurtcore), but I think banning urophilia is more than enough to warrant a change to yellow. Literately a porno that involves someone pissing at some point is punishable here by gaol time. I watch a lot of porn (and not to kinkshame, but I find piss porn a hugeeee bonerkiller) and have seen probably dozens of porn videos on random websites where at some point it turns into a piss scene for a few minutes. I skip over those parts, but in theory I could have been jailed — or could be in the future — for having accessed those. This isn't child porn we're talking about, or dudes gangraping a dog. We're talking about a dick doing what a dick does. And prison time for watching it. I'm new here and don't want to make any wrong moves, but in accordance with WP:Be Bold, I'm going to change NZ to Yellow in a few weeks if nobody opposes. Cheers --122.60.66.191 (talk) 07:16, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
Turkey listed under Europe
Why is Turkey listed under Europe? According to CIA Factbook (https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/tu.html) Turkey is in the Near East which is in a different category in the article. (On Wikipedia it is said it's only 3% Europe and the rest is Asia). Should be moved. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.246.7.137 (talk) 15:13, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Pornography is not strictly illegal in Turkey. In the map, it must be shown under "legal, with restrictions" not under "illegal". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.38.64.123 (talk) 20:10, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
Porn on the internet is completely illegal in Turkey by the authorities. Most porn sites are banned in the level of their server IP. So even if a Turkish person changes DNS it is still inaccessible. The newly operated sites might be accessible for some period of time like 2-3 weeks or in best scenario 1-2 months but they get blocked eventually. Turkish authorities probably have some sort of adult domains list so the websites get blocked very fast. Some of small porn sites are accessible if we change the DNS but they gets blocked in time too. Besides there are Deep Pocket Injection methods to censor the internet in Turkey. As a result the map and the table for internet pornography for Turkey should be changed to Illegal. There are still subscription model TV channels that can show softcore erotic movies after midnight but no hardcore or sexual organs shown. I hope someone fix that too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 45.135.206.195 (talk) 22:33, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
Tables are about child pornography, not general pornography
It looks like someone simply copied and pasted the tables from Legality of child pornography. greenfield (talk) 20:16, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
I have noticed this and restored it to the last version that was remotely presentable. Dronebogus (talk) 18:02, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
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Turkey
You can add the link : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornography_in_Turkey — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5435ljklj!lk!ml (talk • contribs) 09:59, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
Taiwan
For Taiwan, I can see no source cited that can substantiate the legality of pornography. In-addition, it's inclusion in the list of countries suggests that it is an independent country, not part of China, which is not a position held by either the U.S., the People's Republic of China (see Shanghai Communique treaty), or even the contemporary Kuomintang. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Publius-moment (talk • contribs) 06:17, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
Canada
The section on Canada says it is illegal to sell hardcore pornography to those OVER 18. I think it would be more likely that those under 18 cannot buy pornography, while those over 18 can. 2600:1700:8A10:7650:A18B:9EEA:1A5:DABD (talk) 07:44, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
Taiwan
As usual with this kind of article, the map is completely at odds with the text. Taiwan is coloured yellow ('Partially restricted') on the map, then listed as completely legal in the table, with no explanatory paragraph. Also Hong Kong is not listed on the map at all. 31.4.143.1 (talk) 08:31, 14 January 2024 (UTC)