Talk:Pornographic parody film
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"High production values"
editThe content which Scalhotrod is edit warring to add back is plainly not supported by the cited source. The source does not mention or discuss "production values" or any similar concept. The only video identified/discussed in the source had not been completed at the time the source was published; the source article's author could not have seen (and did not claim they had seen any form, finished or unfinished, of) the finished video; the author This is just a promotional blurt without reliable sourcing, and Scalhotrod's refusal to provide any substantive explanation for restoring the effectively unsourced content is telling. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 18:23, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
- Wiktionary gives this definition of "production values", "(film, performing arts) plural form of production value; the combined technical qualities of the methods, materials, or stagecraft skills used in the production of a motion picture or artistic performance." [1]
- With this in mind, I may have a bias or just benefit from actual experience or perspective as I have worked in the Entertainment industry as well as have friends and relatives that are Producers, Directors, Writers, and Performers. When I read the source I cited and saw that it mentioned the use of an emerging technology (3D in this case) in a kind of production which has not traditionally used such a technology (adult films) and then goes on to make a statement about the costs of such a production technique ("Created by Hustler's studio arm... ...is apparently the most expensive movie the studio has ever produced."[1]), IMO summarizing these statements with the phrase "production values" is not even a stretch, its just accurate use of vocabulary. Furthermore, I do not think it requires formal education in film-making to understand that the cited article, even though it does not explicitly use the phrase "production values", is entirely about just that. --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 17:33, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
References
- ^ Westbrook, Logan (July 21, 2010). "Hustler Making 3D Avatar Porn Movie". The Escapist. Retrieved September 10, 2010.
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No comment as to if the sourcing previously used was sufficient or not, but porns and parody porns in particular using high production values is very easy to reliably source (particularly about Pirates (2005 film), but also others). [2] [3] [4] [5][6][7][8] [9] [10][11][12][13]Gaijin42 (talk) 20:19, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- Careful Gaijin42, you're assuming that there are other Editors (like us) who read past the article title and first paragraph... ;) --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 20:53, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- To duly chastise both sides, I think some are playing a WP:GAME and making a WP:POINT to challenge easily verifiable WP:BLUE material to annoy or distract scalhotrod. On the other hand, once challenged, don't edit war with the weak sources - just replace them with the better sources and cut them off at the pass. Gaijin42 (talk) 21:02, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- Excellent suggestion,
Done --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 21:35, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- Excellent suggestion,
- To duly chastise both sides, I think some are playing a WP:GAME and making a WP:POINT to challenge easily verifiable WP:BLUE material to annoy or distract scalhotrod. On the other hand, once challenged, don't edit war with the weak sources - just replace them with the better sources and cut them off at the pass. Gaijin42 (talk) 21:02, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
