Talk:Por-Bazhyn

Starting article

The English version of Tuvaonline.RU has a lot of information on Por-Bazhyn for expanding this article [1]. It is what I plan on using, but if someone gets to it before I do, have at it! --Stacey Doljack Borsody (talk) 20:53, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Highlights

1. Vladimir Putin and the Prince of Monaco visited Por-Bazhyn
2. Pictures available in commons
3. Sergey Shoigu wants to have it restored
4. There was a recent archaeological expedition and I think another one planned for this summer
5. Generally assumed to be a fortress, other theories include monastery and observatory
6. Part of the Tuvan "Tos Ertine" contest
7. Also check the Russian Wikipedia article

Correct name in Russian

The correct Russian name is Пор-Бажын, not Пор-Бажың. Пор-Бажың is the Tuvan name, eg. the "real" (local) name, but Russian does not have the letter ң which is velar nasal [ŋ] so instead Russians replace it with н, alveolar nasal [n]. I tried to edit the page to correct this, but I'm not used to Wikipedia editing so I don't know how. For it to be correct, it should read "Por-Bazhyn (Por-Bajin, Por-Bazhyng, Tuvan: Пор-Бажың, Russian: Пор-Бажын)" or such. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 天人了 (talk • contribs) 18:03, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for pointing this out. I lack the linguistic expertise, so I had only re-written the archaeology bits, but had not touched the various versions of the place name at the beginning. I have now inserted the correct spellings and language attributions as per your comments, but I have inverted your sequence of Tuvan and Russian versions in order to avoid having a comma immediately after the letter ң which is hard to read and may lead to misunderstandings. Klumpenburg (talk) 16:17, 10 July 2016 (UTC)