Talk:Political positions of JD Vance

No, Vance has not endorsed "reactionaries" or "neo-reactionaries"

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I've read the article that one or two editors have used to shore up the idea that Vance is a reactionary. But he never clearly says so. Is there some other news piece where he identifies as such? If not, it should be pulled back. MatthewDalhousie (talk) 02:21, 26 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Looking at this closer, this article has some serious distortions. The section heading on this topic suggest that he identifies with a movement he doesn't identify with. Also, someone has attributed the following quote to him — "I think Curtis Yarvin’s monarchy ideas are bonkers, but you know what? He’s absolutely on to something real with his concept of the Cathedral" but it is not Vance who has said that. There's a bit of cleaning up to do in this piece. Am suddenly very aware of the direction we're given in WP:BLPSTYLE "Do not label people with contentious labels, loaded language, or terms that lack precision, unless a person is commonly described that way in reliable sources." Before this subject is given any labels, we must ensure they have not been derived simply from the company the person kept at some point in the past; moreover, before the subject is given a label, I believe we would all need to be convinced that he has been "commonly described" as such, not once off in an opinion piece, by a critic, many years ago.MatthewDalhousie (talk) 02:38, 26 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Agree with User:MatthewDalhousie that as per WP:BLP, we cannot label Vance as neo-reactionary in the lead, as most WP:RS sources do not introduce his political position as such. RogerYg (talk) 09:33, 29 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Discussion on JD Vance TALK page also did not have consensus to include neo-reactionary. RogerYg (talk) 09:34, 29 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Good point @RogerYg.
MatthewDalhousie (talk) 10:10, 29 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
@RogerYg Looks like another discerning editor has already removed the material with "contentious labels" which is good. MatthewDalhousie (talk) 10:45, 29 July 2024 (UTC)Reply