Talk:Poland in the Early Middle Ages
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Faked
editEspecially the 5th to 10th century history of Poland is preposterously faked erroneous as much untrue as the standart WW II Holocaust of the First World War "holocaust of 6,000,000 Jews and 800,000 Jewish children" in Poland and Ukraine publicized by the Gov of the State of NY Martin Glynn on October 31 1919 in The American Hebrew.
It is a untrue drivel because of Politically incorrect origin of our so called Piast Dynasty.
I have no time to write replica but to interested give a hint for more study. If you are of Polish ancestry ask your olders what does Chrobry means in Polish. 99.9% individuals born outside Poland and 97% born in Poland and with higher eductation (MS, PhD, MD do not know)
The reason is that our parents thought that it is shamful to admit that we are younger brothers of Ukrainians and Polanie lived for millenia near Kyiv on the western side of Dniepr River and emigrated in the search of hibernal rains during the eight Bond Event. Google Bond events yourself. I do not want you to belive me in anything or believe academic paycheck pickers historians or God Forbid holocausts Survivors.
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Jan Kamolak 17:07, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
GA2 issues
edit"Veneti" (also spelled Venedi etc.) are described by several authors as Vistulan/Baltic people. "Venethi", with this particular spelling, are mentioned by Tacitus and Jordanes and located mostly in today's Ukraine, so the terms are not meant to refer to the same people and the distinction is intentional.
Orczar (talk) 23:23, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
- There appears to be not much activity on this in the past few days. Are you still planning to get this up to GA standards? Also, can you give me a summary of what has been done to resolve the issues brought up in the review? Thanks. Wronkiew (talk) 07:44, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
- I've concluded making the indicated GA2 corrections on this article. Orczar (talk) 14:57, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- I have finished the second review, and put the article back on hold for some additional improvements. Wronkiew (talk) 06:50, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Structure
editThe sections are way too long, and sometimes follow a chronological, sometimes a subject-based order. Maybe some of the most active contributors, who know best about what's in this article, can introduce some sub-sections? Skäpperöd (talk) 15:26, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
Title
editI think this should be under History of Poland in the Early Middle Ages. After all, this is a history article, it doesn't describe society, economy, geography or other topics... --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 04:40, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
- Most of it is on the early Slavic settlement and development in the vicinity of and on Polish lands, not history of Poland per se...Orczar (talk) 22:30, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
Minutii
editHi Editors. Just a couple of things w.r.t. issues of Przeworsk and Prague , and esp. Sukow-Dz. continuity (or not)
- The paper should more clearly highlight that the end of the Przeworsk culture is dated to c. 450 AD, at the latest. Przeworsk Culture. A Brief Story. Jacek Andrzejowski
- There, however, is evidence of continued , albeit less dense, settlement in Pomerania ([1] p 62]
- Parczewski's 'dating' of S-D in northern Poland to 600 AD is problematic. It is based on assumptions that such pottery 'should be dated' to 600 AD, because that's when slavs are first recored (in the Danube, mind you (!)) However, there has been no dendrodating. in fact, given that Sukow -Dziedcze pottery is simliar to pottery from Slavic Eastern Germany, which has been dated to after 700, then the story is likey to be the same in northern Poland. [2] - chapter - "The slavoniation of Southwest Baltic region")
- Any notions of continuity between some forms of Przeworsk pottery and later Slavic ones are problematic. Apart from what appears to be a 200 year gap, the Slavic ones are of a middle Danubian inspiration,and not from late Przeworsk forms. ([3] p 63; [4] Kobylinski's chapter)
- The Sukow culture, however, is difficult to place within a southern or southeastern 'Slavic" origin. As already pointed out in the article, it seems to have a different base, fundamentally. Some earlier thought of direct expansion from belorussia are now questionable, esp. given that such sites cluster in more westerly areas of Poland rather than the East. (Barford's Slavs book 65-66, 87-88)
- Rosulands ([5] p 190-191) talks about some similarities between Slavic Sukow and Saxon pottery (but also see final chapter again in this volume [6] on Saxons and slavs) Slovenski Volk (talk) 00:52, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
East Germanic tribes.
editTaken from the article: "The Slavic migrations in the area of contemporary Poland started in the second half of the 5th century CE, some half century after these territories were vacated by Germanic tribes, their previous inhabitants".
Wasn´t it just some of the Germanic people in the area that left? I thought it was more that the remaining Germanic people were assimilated as a result of the Slavic migrations? --Vitzque (talk) 17:50, 20 June 2015 (UTC)