Talk:Pokémon Generations

Latest comment: 7 years ago by Kelege in topic Japanese titles?

Protagonist/rival names; neutrality? edit

Since Pokémon Generations has gone on for some time, I've come to question the neutrality of using the protagonist and rival names. I know it may sound preposterous seeing how a good number of them have pre-programmed names when making non-playable appearances (e.g., Red and Blue player character Red and rival Blue), and some of which are used in other media (May, Dawn, Serena). But therein lies the issue: as far as I know, there has been no statement beyond fan say-so that these are meant to be their names as playable characters within their respective games, unlike most other video game examples such as Link and several Final Fantasy protagonists. I assume this is the reason why they're unnamed in the articles of said games (Red and Blue address Red and Blue by role rather than name). Here's why I feel the same should apply to Pokémon Generations.

First, if you watch the 8-bit segment of Episode 1, the protagonist is named "Trainer" rather than "Red" as this article purports. Furthermore, the character "Silver" is an entirely fanmade name for the rival of Gold and Silver seen in Episode 5, since he was never given an official name. Finally, we have the recently released official Japanese dub of the first six episodes on the official Japanese Pokémon YouTube channel, which credit the voice cast and their major roles in the videos' descriptions; however, the characters "Blue" and "Silver" are respectively named "Challenger" (挑戦者) and "Giovanni's Son" (サカキの息子).

With all due respect, I believe it would be best to follow the example of the Pokémon video game articles and remove any mention of the names of all characters with player-determined names. To do so otherwise would violate the neutrality of these articles for lack of official statements. User:SubZeroSilver (talk) 04:16, 14 December 2016 (UTC)Reply

  • I totally agree, using names that aren't mentioned/confirmed is original research and fancruft. Kelege (talk) 05:03, 14 December 2016 (UTC)Reply

Japanese titles? edit

While posting the previous subject for discussion, I considered whether or not this article classifies as Japan-related, and thus whether to add the Japanese titles. Clearly it was produced by a Japanese studio, though it was released in English months before its Japanese release. However, I feel the heavy and direct Japanese involvement in this series is enough to make this article qualify. User:SubZeroSilver (talk) 15:37, 14 December 2016 (UTC)Reply

  • Once again, I agree. All the other Pokemon anime articles include the Japanese titles, so it only makes sense this one should follow suit. Kelege (talk) 10:35, 15 December 2016 (UTC)Reply