Talk:Pizza dolce di Beridde

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The result was: promoted by Bruxton (talk) 22:39, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

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Pizza dolce di Beridde, a Roman Jewish sweet bread

• ... that the Pizza dolce di Beridde (pictured) is given to the participants of the circumcision feast of a Roman Jewish child? Source: "Durante la festa, si dona ai partecipanti un sacchetto di dolci...Il sacchetto contiene vari dolci tra cui la pizza" [1]
  • ALT1: ... that the Pizza dolce di Beridde (pictured) was reportedly the favorite dessert of Pope Benedict XVI? Source: " Pope Benedict XVI... surprised the Limentanis two years ago with a thank-you note for his favorite dessert." [2]
  • Reviewed: La Voce della Patria
  • Comment: I will review an article ASAP

Created by Alessandro57 (talk). Self-nominated at 09:28, 17 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Pizza dolce di Beridde; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• I will review this in the coming hours or days! WatkynBassett (talk) 18:57, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
  • Review:
    • The article was created on 16 March 2023‎ and nominated on 17 March 2023. Its nomination is thus new enough.
    • The article has more than 1,500 characters of readable prose.
    • The article seems absolutely free of copyright violations. Earwig picks up no close paraphrasing or other issues and I did not do so myself.
    • The article is sourced. As usual, I was, however, a bit concerned about the quality of the sources provided and added two myself to boost the reliability (and notability) of the article. Nevertheless, I still wonder about the reliability of "ditestaedigola" and "Cuochinprogress" - these two sources might be self-published. Can you check whether these are indeed WP:SPS and, if they are, could you try to substitute them with higher quality ones?
    • QPQ is done (you reviewed quite an interesting article!)
    • The hook ALT1 is to my liking and short enough. I took the liberty of adding another source to verify it and added it to the article. I have only one minor quibble: In the article "reportedly" is used as a qualifier for this statement. Would it not be more appropriate to use this qualifier here too?
    • One additional point: Should pizza really be capitalised in the whole article (I ask because you used it uncapitalised in the hook)?
    • The picture you provided seems to be an original work of yours and is appropriate in every aspect.
    • Overall: Thanks a lot for creating this article, Alessandro57. I learned quite a bit about a dish of the eternal city. If you can address the points raised above (WP:SPS, usage of "reportedly" and capitalisation of "pizza"), I will be happy to approve ALT1. WatkynBassett (talk) 20:35, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

Hello and thank you very much for your thorough review and your kind words, WatkynBassett. Yes, I chose that article to review since History of Fascism is one of my passions. I will translate in the next days for wiki:it. Actually the two websites that you suspect to be blogs are actually blogs. ;-) In any case, Cuochi in progress is hosted by giallozafferano, which is the best Italian cooking website, and I can imagine that they exercise some control over what is written (in fact, their recipe for this pizza is the best among all the ones I checked). Anyway, I did my best to replace these two blogs. I found:

• ProjectDreyfus, an Italian Jewish website about jewish politics and culture, very professional;
• a new book in English about Jewish cuisine in Italy (and related blog ;-));
• a website of a store that sells wedding/circumcision items for Jews in Rome;
• an article by a rabbi about the meaning of Kavod;

I hope that with these additions the quality of the article has improved!

Of course there is no problem in capitalising every "pizza" and in inserting "reportedly" in the hook. Pope Benedict was known in Rome for writing appreciation notes to several shops, and before being elected Pope he has been living in the Borgo, not far from the Forno Boccione in Ghetto, so this story if it is not true, it is well found. ;-)

Thanks again, Alex2006 (talk) 19:18, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

Alessandro57 Thanks for all your good work to create free knowledge and your kindness! I am now satisfied that all DYK-criteria are met, and I am happy to approve ALT1 (with the already added "reportedly"). WatkynBassett (talk) 14:11, 24 March 2023 (UTC)