Talk:Pineapple Express/Archive 1

Washington State

Washington State is being hit with a Pineapple Express right now.

Several, in succession, in fact....at least up here in BC.Skookum1 07:04, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Pineapple Express and marine history

My understanding of the origin of the term is that it was because wet winds coming to the PacNW from Hawaii also made the trip from Hawaii to the region a lot shorter as navigation could be done in more or less a straight line; the pineapples came express delivery, in other words (old pictures of street markets in Vancouver and Seattle feature scads of fresh pineapple, bananas and other fruit...extremely rare in other parts of the country/countries east of the Rockies. Also I made an edit note that I think the meanings may be slightly different, and with the latest series of systems - which appear to be coming from due west, rather than southwest as I usually associate with a Pineapple Express (aka a Chinook up here); and they aren't necessarily as warm as they usually are. At least a few of the recent storms have been tail-ends of typhoons that hit the Phillippines; normally Expresses come from the direction of Hawaii (I thought, anyway). But I'll get around to quizzing one of the weather guys here (Mark Madryga, who's actually a real metereologist as well as a TV personality) and see what he says about the terminology; myself I think the term has become trendy and isn't as specific as it was in former times, or in the days when the practicalities of sailing ships really made it an "express" run from Maui and Oahu; the current systems are coming, on the other hand, more or less from the direction of Japan. Those from Hawaii cause the drying Chinook on the Prairies/Plains; I'm not sure what's going on in Calgary right now but if these are real Expresses, they should be having a Chinook right now....Skookum1 07:04, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

The maritime connection has to be spurious since pineapples were only introduced to Hawaii from Mexico by American growers around 1900, after the replacement of sailing ships by steamers. In any case, the stormy weather associated with a Pineapple Express would be hazardous to vessels, not an aid. The term is a relatively more recent invention of the media. In the SF Bay Area, the term for many years, at least as far back as the 1950s was "Hawaiian Storm". Tmangray 01:02, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Orwellian History

I think this is not a low importance term but is high - because it is used in the news so often and is still very vague in this article.

I think this term is used frequently in recent years - possibly due to the higher incidence of extreme weather events from global warming. A few years ago I had never heard of this. Now in vancouver it seems like any heavy rain is called this. I want to know is this thing real? Is this a coverup of global climate change? what is a typical historical frequency of this event and is the currect incidence deviating or is it my imagination? Unfortunately I have no idea about weather enough to find out how to answer these things. Hopefully someone else out there does and is interested in updating this. Now that Global Warming is a popular topic maybe someone will see the signifigance of more enlightenment for this concept. More enlightenment that ties in and includes a broader historical and political context.

Not the Tropical Jetstream

If you'll note in the graphic provided in the article itself, the jetstream involved is not the tropical jetstream, but a southerly branch of the polar jetstream which dives far enough south to capture tropical moisture. Besides, the Pineapple Express is not a jetstream, but a set of weather factors which includes a jetstream. Tmangray 22:41, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Orting, WA Flash Flood of 2006

I'm suggesting that Orting, WA Flash Flood of 2006 be merged into Pineapple Express because the former doesn't appear to be significantly notable except as it is a part of the phenomenon described in the latter article. Additionally, the former is barely a stub and has no sources. --Tim4christ17 ^talk 16:32, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

• Agree: Orting, WA Flash Flood of 2006 is almost an orphan; Pineapple Express is the only page that links to it other than this talk page and a redirect page with 2 bot user pages linking to it. It also hasn't been edited since July. To make a long story short, that page will be found by very few people and might as well not be there. There could be a section in Pineapple Express about specific examples of floods it caused. some page -- TurtleBoy0 00:18, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
• Support; the November 2006 event is already illustrated in this article. Walter Siegmund (talk) 02:44, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Redirecting to Pineapple Express (Film)

I'm suggesting that the query "Pineapple Express" redirect to "Pineapple Express (Film)", instead of this page. This article has been rated with low-importance, and I'm sure it gets less intentional hits each day than the film. Perhaps this article could be described as "Pineapple Express (Weather)", "Pineapple Express (Phenomena), etc... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.133.138.41 (talk • contribs) 16:43, 2008 December 30

I agree that the criteria of Wikipedia:DAB#Is_there_a_primary_topic.3F suggest that we should do as you suggest. I note that in 2010, this article may be the primary topic again. Walter Siegmund (talk) 18:11, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Synonym "Chinook" for "Pineapple Express"

In "Causes and Effects", "Chinook" was listed as being a synonym for the Pineapple Express "on the Coast". I was born and raised in Los Angeles and never heard it, but my friend, born and raised in Spokane, was quite familiar with it; it was a natural part of his vocabulary. I've heard it a few times since moving to Portland. Since the synonymization was tagged with a "where?" query, I changed it from "on the Coast" to "in the Pacific Northwest", which seems to be more accurate. If there are many people from San Francisco or below who use the term, let's hear from them; I'm no great expert on regional vocabulary. Scutigera (talk) 21:28, 4 July 2012 (UTC)