Talk:Pina Menichelli

Latest comment: 13 years ago by Betty Logan in topic Review

Review

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I would appreciate a review and grading of this article. Thanks, Jnorthdur (talk) 06:18, 1 April 2011 (UTC)Reply

  • This is obviously a well-written article and gives a comprehensive overview of Menichelli's filmography. However I'm downgrading it to "C" class; it was erroneously awarded B status but doesn't meet the criteria for a B-class article yet. Apart from the issues above, there are certain limitations in the coverage. For instance how did she review? Was she acclaimed? In what sort of reverence did her peers hold her? How big a star was she? How did she compare to her contemporaries? Was her stardom limited to Italy or was she international? The coverage of her personal life is very brief, did her separation cause a scandal? Did it affect her career? The article is lacking in detail outside of her filmography, but if that is addressed it will easily be a B class article and a candidate for good article status. Betty Logan (talk) 13:07, 3 April 2011 (UTC)Reply
  • I've restored the B class rating, it's easily into B class territory now. The lead still needs to be expanded at some point (about double the length it is now) to give a thorough overview of what the article is about, and her date of death as a biographic detail still needs to be sourced in the article. The only slight concern I have is that there is no negative coverage and if you take it to GA at some point a reviewer might question its neutrality, but it's a great article overall. Betty Logan (talk) 07:33, 6 May 2011 (UTC)Reply
  • Thanks for the upgrade, it's encouraging. When I finish my current assignments, I will source the death date (it is in Martinelli, I just don't have acopy to hand), expand the lead and try and look for some negative coverage. I shall also expand the details of her career at Itala. One of the problems with Italian silent film is that film criticism was also in its infancy, and the aristocrats/tycoons who owned the studios also owned (or were friends with) the film critics...as a result, certain 'preferred' film directors and actors get fantastic write-ups, while others get ruthlessly slagged off. 'Popular' directors like Elvira Notari and Emilio Ghione get a lot of abuse, whereas films featuring Menichelli or Bertini seem to receive universal acclaim! Thanks a lot for you help with this article. Jnorthdur (talk) 09:54, 6 May 2011 (UTC)Reply
    Yeah I appreciate that, you sometimes get jokers who insist the Hitler article should have a balance of positive and negative material. WP:NPOV doesn't actually say the articles need to be balanced, just that they must be representative of all significant and published points of view, so if there isn't any negative material out there then obviously there isn't any to include, and there is not much you can do about that. That's not a problem in itself, just something that might need to be explained at a GA review for instance. Betty Logan (talk) 17:08, 6 May 2011 (UTC)Reply