Talk:Physiology of underwater diving

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It may be desirable to split out Physiology of diving mammals (or Diving physiology of mammals) at some stage, but it would probably be worth polishing the current content up a bit first. · · · Peter Southwood ^(talk): 10:15, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

• Peter Southwood, I don't do physiology, I'm a population modeller - but I know there's any amount of papers on diving physiology in penguins in particular. Mostly paywalled, natch. If you can give me an idea what topics you are looking for, I could pull & send you a bunch? --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 16:30, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Elmidae, Strictly speaking I don't do physiology either, I am an engineer and a diving educationalist, but we chip in when and where we can if no-one else is doing what is needed, and this is interesting. Most useful would be review articles on the adaptations for diving of penguins, if such a thing is available, or I might be able to select from a list of titles. Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood ^(talk): 18:27, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Right ho, I'll have a look. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 20:57, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Peter Southwood: Found a few articles that sound promising. In particular there's several interesting reviews by one P.J. Butler.

• Ponganis, P. J., Meir, J. U., & Williams, C. L. (2011). In pursuit of Irving and Scholander: a review of oxygen store management in seals and penguins. Journal of Experimental Biology, 214(20), 3325-3339.

  Available online at https://jeb.biologists.org/content/214/20/3325 Possibly useful.

• Schreer, J. F., & Kovacs, K. M. (1997). Allometry of diving capacity in air-breathing vertebrates. Canadian Journal of Zoology, 75(3), 339-358.

  Unable to access online.

• Butler, P. J. (2000). Energetic costs of surface swimming and diving of birds. Physiological and Biochemical Zoology, 73(6), 699-705.

  Can read abstract online, looks a bit limited. Try others first.

• Butler, P. J. (2004). Metabolic regulation in diving birds and mammals. Respiratory physiology & neurobiology, 141(3), 297-315.

  Unable to access online.

• Butler, P. J. (2001). Diving beyond the limits. Physiology, 16(5), 222-227.

  Available online at https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/physiologyonline.2001.16.5.222

• Noren, S. R., Williams, T. M., Pabst, D. A., Mclellan, W. A., & Dearolf, J. L. (2001). The development of diving in marine endotherms: preparing the skeletal muscles of dolphins, penguins, and seals for activity during submergence. Journal of Comparative Physiology B, 171(2), 127-134.

  Available online at https://williams.eeb.ucsc.edu/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/EndothermDivingDevelopment_NorenEtAl2001.pdf

• Elliott, K. H., Ricklefs, R. E., Gaston, A. J., Hatch, S. A., Speakman, J. R., & Davoren, G. K. (2013). High flight costs, but low dive costs, in auks support the biomechanical hypothesis for flightlessness in penguins. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, 110(23), 9380-9384.

  Available online at https://www.pnas.org/content/110/23/9380.full

If these sound useful, I can email you the lot. Cheers --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 02:51, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

It looks like I can access some of them online, so not much point in sending those. Give me a day or two to see what I can access myself. Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood ^(talk): 19:51, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

@Elmidae:, The three below might be useful to email. The others I can read online. Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood ^(talk): 05:11, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

• Schreer, J. F., & Kovacs, K. M. (1997). Allometry of diving capacity in air-breathing vertebrates. Canadian Journal of Zoology, 75(3), 339-358.
• Butler, P. J. (2000). Energetic costs of surface swimming and diving of birds. Physiological and Biochemical Zoology, 73(6), 699-705.
• Butler, P. J. (2004). Metabolic regulation in diving birds and mammals. Respiratory physiology & neurobiology, 141(3), 297-315.

@Pbsouthwood: Sure. I believe for that to work, you might have to drop me an email so that I have an address to send attachments to (can't attach anything to WP emails). --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 15:30, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

 Done · · · Peter Southwood ^(talk): 07:20, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

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