Talk:Phra Phrom

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I'm not quite sure why this article exists ... searching for "Phra Phom" yields little results, and I don't quite understand how this concept/legend differs from that of Brahma (god). - IstvanWolf 06:32, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Hm. Might be thai or cambodian.--D-Boy 20:43, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

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The photograph of the four-faced Brahma at Erewan shrine has been displayed incorrectly, namely in its mirror image. From the viewers perspective, the left leg of the deity should be raised while the hands on the right should hold the mirror, book and prayer beads. 84.80.41.125 (talk) 20:11, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Last edited at 20:11, 29 May 2008 (UTC). Substituted at 02:54, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Connection to Erawan?

The shrines of this deity are often erroneously connected with Erawan, although there's little or no connection between Brahma and Erawan in Hindu or Buddhist mythology. Most likely, the two deities are conflated due to the famous shrine in Bangkok, the Erawan shrine, which is of Phra Phrom and is named after the Erawan hotel in Bangkok.

Kortoso (talk) 01:56, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

Hindu Brahma vs Buddhist Mahabrahma

JaMongKut's edits from February assert that Phra Phrom is a representation specifically of the Buddhist beings Mahabrahma and not the Hindu god Brahma. I'd say this is an oversimplification, and mostly incorrect. While Buddhist cosmology attributes alternative meanings to several Hindu deities, in practice the distinction isn't often made. With representations like the one at the Erawan Shrine, the spiritual practices undertaken at there follow neither Hindu nor Buddhist religious rites anyway, but really are a mixture of these religions with folk animist beliefs, a very common thing in Thailand. Even its origins don't follow religious lines, as illustrated by this VoiceTV article[1], though the ceremony for the installation of the statue was performed by Brahmins, which I'd say quite clearly indicate that it's viewed as mainly Hindu-originated rather than Buddhist. --Paul_012 (talk) 13:25, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

I've adjusted the article opening to better illustrate the fact. It seems to me though that this would best be covered in the Erawan Shrine article, as there isn't really much reliable coverage that is separate from the shrine. Merging seems to be the optimal solution. --Paul_012 (talk) 17:58, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

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