Talk:Philip Alston (counterfeiter)

Hello,

My name is Tammy,

I have 40 yrs of research into the life of Philip Alston The Counterfeiter, because he is my 5th Great Grandfather. As well as the Dromgoole's who are also mentioned in his article. My Grandmother was a Dromgoole. Philip Alston was my 5th Great Grandfather and James Dromgoole was my 4th Great Uncle and John Gilbert was my 4th Great Grandfather etc. etc. So I am passionate about this article.

I have been researching My family sense I was 14yrs old with my first trip to the National Archives at that time.

While I love the article and appreciate it and thank whom ever created it. They keep deleting my edits of the facts and removing my edits of factual historical items that can be proved with Historical documents, Not Books or Opinions.

I would like to delete incorrect information on The article for Philip Alston Counterfeiter at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Alston_(counterfeiter).

I have tried many time to do so and the edits keep being taken down. I realize in the beginning I did not do it correctly. I added things not allowed and gave my Opinions in the beginning, when I edited because I was unaware of the rules. what was allowed or not allowed etc. After I learned the rules, the last few edits I stripped it down to just facts that I can back up with historical documents, but they still took down those edits! why? Why?

Please someone help with this it seems unfair! I can not stop them from speedy deleting my edits, Why? I have actual Historical documents to back up and reference my claims, why delete provable facts? I desperately need help from a more experienced user to edit this article for Philip Alston the Counterfeiter. To take out the author's opinions, add facts and delete false information combining two Philip Alston's into one. There are two and they are first cousins, proven with Historical documents.

Thank you for your time and please help me correct and edit without the fear of being blocked for trying to set the record on Philip Correctly. Tammy My email is philipalstonfamilyassociation@gmail.com

Please help me edit unproven items and add proven facts below:

!.) Philip Alston (Feb. 18, 1740 or 1741), Please delete! no one knows when he was born, This is his first cousin Col. Philip Alston of Horseshoe Bend who was a Wig and Patriot, Not Philip Alston the Counterfeiter! The correct time is ( Birth abt 1740 and last known to be living in 1808/1809)

This is his cousin Col. Philip Alston b. Feb 18th 1740, See University of NC for documentation, it is copyrighted or I would post here.

2.) Delete.... Alston was believed to have married in 1765 in North Carolina to a woman named either Temperance Smith, granddaughter of Captain Nicholas Smith and great-great granddaughter of Robert Bell, or Mary Molly Temple. He may have married again to Mildred McCoy, see above sources for corrections requests.

Correction, Col. Philip Alston...see university of North Carolina for Col. Philip Alston who married Temperance Smith and Mary Molly Temple, This is not Philip Alston the Counterfeiter, this is his first Cousin, who was the son of John Joseph Alston. and first cousin to Philip Alston the counterfeiter...Please removed the combination of two people into one. They are two separate people with just as impressive stories of their own! Add He only married Milly McCoy I can provide documentation on her, but there is no documentation on any other wife, but her. She later married trader Bullard see records of Tennessee.

3.) Add information, from the Colonial records of Georgia, Historically accurate see source repositories for documentation. Valid and provable. Along with his other relatives in Colonial Georgia. Add Supreme Court references to Rodney Mississippi noted is the original grant from British and Spanish Grant proving this is Philip Alston, as well as himself signing and testifying in court in 1808 proving he does not fade out of history. As well as an Appraisement of an estate he signed in 1809 in Mississippi. I can supply actual documents for my claims, but most are copyrighted, by repositories, so I can only reference and you have to buy them like I did.

Philip Alston (Feb. 18, 1740 or 1741 – after 1799) was an 18th-century Spanish-American counterfeiter, both before and after the American Revolution. He operated in (Add in Colonial Georgia from 1763 to 1770) to Virginia and the Carolinas before the war, and in Kentucky and Illinois afterward. He was associated with Cave-in-Rock and his son, outlaw Peter Alston, and counterfeiter John Duff. He was an early American settler in Natchez, as well as in the Cumberland and Red River valleys in Kentucky and Tennessee

4.) Add in information on Anthony Hutchinson/Hutchins, he also counterfeited and got into trouble for it. This needs further discussion. For he was close to Philip Alston and referenced in many historical documentation with Philip Alston the Counterfeiter.

It is not known when the senior Philip Alston learned and started counterfeiting. In 1770–1771 he and his brother John Alston were wanted by the law for counterfeiting activities in North Carolina and in 1773 in the colony of Virginia.[3] As authorities were targeting counterfeiters in North Carolina, as well as the neighboring colonies of Virginia and South Carolina, the Alston brothers fled in 1772 or 1773 to Natchez, British West Florida, on the Mississippi River.[4] This former French colonial city was located about 200 miles upriver from New Orleans.

5.) IMPORTANT... Add his last residence and probable death place and information from historical Supreme Court records, PLEASE! Rodney Mississippi

6.) Remove ....Alston fades out of American records in the 1790s.

Nov 22nd 1808 Philip Alston and James Dromgoole appointed appraisers of the estate of Edmond Blanton, who died Mar 8th 1809 The estate appraisement was signed by both Philip Alston Sr. and James Dromgoole. The appraisement was declared by Saray "Sally" Blanton Jan 17th 1809 Jefferson County Probate Records Page 18

So he lived at least until Nov 22nd of 1808 Possibly died in Jan of 1809 per supreme court of MS records and Court Documents of Jefferson MS. As well as the Lawsuit over his property in the original grant in British West Florida (Natchez Court Records). You can order the court records on Philip Alston over his land mentioned in the Natchez Records, from The Brisco Library, It is a Supreme Court Case of Mississippi over what was called Rondey Mississippi later and referenced in the Supreme Court of MS after his death when the decision came down as the area now know as Rodney Mississippi. Tammyokcity (talk) 16:51, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

I so many more documents and research than added in this post. Please contact me if you need more documents or references to actual documents to be able to edit. This article on my family, Please.