Talk:Phi Delta Phi/Archive 1

Archive 1

Initial edit on 11-28-2006

This should probably link to Law School or Legal Education. Also, if a Law School has a Wiki-page then the link to Phi Delta Phi should be included in student organizations.

Recent Changes

The 60th convention [Summer 2012] made some changes to PDP:

1. The International Legal Fraternity of Phi Delta Phi has been changed to the "International Legal Honor Society of Phi Delta Phi" [No longer a fraternity]

2. "in good scholastic standing" is now defined as “not less than the top 1/3 of the class or other recognized, scholastic, professional ethics or service standard in which the candidate for membership has excelled, including, but not limited to, membership on Moot Court, published journals, or service in legal clinics or community service as approved by the Council . . . .“ [Individual Inn's may have higher standards]

3. The prohibition against dual membership in another legal fraternity was abolished since Phi Delta Phi will no longer be known as a “fraternity”;

4. The Phi Delta Phi Prelaw Society was created and Council set a fee of $250 USD to charter what will be known as “Halls” in the undergraduate schools (e.g., the “Georgetown Hall of Phi Delta Phi”) and a $175 initiation fee that will confer membership until a student graduates from his or her college or university; and

5. The initiation fee for membership in The International Legal Honor Society of Phi Delta Phi has been set at $100 USD effective January 1, 2013, with a recommendation for Council to raise the fee for membership of Mexican law students to $75 USD.

Misinformation

"The Inns obtain their names after the Inns of Court in the English system." First, this list of Inns is incomplete. From the heading (Inns), one would believe the contrary to be true. Maybe the writer meant "these Inns," in regards to the naming. Nevertheless, either a complete list should be included or no list at all. Second, as to the quoted statement, it is not true. I am removing it. I will work on this article.Avid reader 18:02, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

• If it's not true then you might want to inform the international headquarters of the fraternity, because according to their ritual: "Our Inns obtain their names after the Inns of Court in the English system − the source, after all, of common law." (http://www.phideltaphi.org/v2/media/pdf/PDP%20Initiation%20Ritual.pdf) BlueGold73 18:52, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

I have redone the intro as follows:

The law school chapters of Phi Delta Phi are known as Inns, that term being derived from the English Inns of Court. Each inn is named for a noted jurist or member of the bar, as follows: etc.

I hope that solves the problem, which is probably one of poor wording rather than misinformation. clariosophic 19:26, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

• RE: the list not being complete. I think that is true of most lists. I don't agree with the all or nothing approach. The list apparently is by order of creation, while the official website lists them by location. I have a directory at my office which may have more info. clariosophic 19:45, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
• As a charter member of an Inn of Phi Delta Phi and the person who suggested the name of said Inn, I think that I know how Inns are named. That said, the rewrite is better. Where were both of your comments/input before today? That sentence was there for a while. Misinformation is what someone would see on this page whether it is due to poor wording or whatever. Two comments in the same day on this point. Hmm. At any rate, again, the rewrite is better. Avid reader 22:41, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Neutral Point of View?

It seems to use a lot of positive adjectives when describing. Some of those adjectives are subjective and unnecessary. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.240.243.170 (talk) 21:50, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

agreed, and flagged. 70.21.99.237 (talk) 18:16, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Incomplete List of Inns

As a member of an Inn that was previously Inn of the Year and currently not listed, I suggest:

113. Paca Inn, University of Maryland, 1992.

Xerxesthegreat (talk) 01:58, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Done. Geraldshields11 (talk) 11:56, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Add Chapter

Please add Mitchell Inn - William Mitchell College of Law, Minn. 1993 to your list of inns. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tjperry77 (talk • contribs) 19:41, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Done. Geraldshields11 (talk) 11:56, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Arrangement of Presidents/Justices

I added the terms served and rearranged former presidents and justices by their dates served.

Should there be a better way of arranging? I prefer dates to alphabetical, but it was my preference. Neil618 (talk) 14:01, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Edit request on 11 December 2011

The last sentence of the first paragraph states that "Phi Delta Phi is the second law fraternity to initiate undergraduate or pre-law students." This is incorrect. Phi Delta Phi only initiates law students, not undergraduate or pre-law students. The article should be reverted to the previous version that reflects this. The sentence should read: "Unlike other law fraternities, Phi Delta Phi does not initiate undergraduate or pre-law students."

Lexah06 (talk) 03:00, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. CTJF83 15:29, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Done --Jnorton7558 (talk) 19:23, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 13 April 2012

Phi Delta Phi is the oldest legal organization in continuos existence in the United States. http://www.phideltaphi.org/default.asp?

Phi Delta Phi only allows law students to join, not undergrads (unlike Phi Alpha Delta) http://www.phideltaphi.org/?page=MemberRequirements.

Please edit this, as it is blatantly wrong. Thanks.

This is contradictory

"Phi Delta Phi is the second oldest legal organization in continuous existence in the United States and third oldest in North America." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.247.129.221 (talk) 00:02, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

No, it is not. It implies that there is at least one legal organization in continuous existence founded before Phi Delta Phi in either Canada or Mexico. --Gnom (talk) 11:27, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 10 December 2012

Supreme Court of Canada Justices

(term served on the Court)

• Rosalie Abella (2004-present)
• Ian Binnie (1998-2011)
• Beverley McLachlin (1989-present)
• Claire L'Heureux-Dubé (1987-2002)
• Ronald Martland (1958-1982)
• Louise Arbour (1999-2004)

Pdpstaff (talk) 20:00, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Not done: Please provide a reliable source that established that Ms. Arbour was a member of this honor society. Her Wikipedia article does say she is an honorary member, but I see no source there and the Wikipedia article cannot be used as a source. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 20:20, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Source of Inn Names

I think if it can be referenced where the names of each of the Inns come from that a link to that persion (if they have a page) is appropriate. But I can find nothing that lists all of those honored.Naraht (talk) 16:48, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 February 2016

Please update Justice Scalia's Term on the Supreme Court as ending 2016. Justice Scalia died on February 13, 2016, thus ending his term.

Thank you,

Royl L. Roberts (Roylroberts (talk) 01:04, 18 February 2016 (UTC))

 Done Thanks fro pointing that out - Arjayay (talk) 08:54, 18 February 2016 (UTC)