Talk:Peter Dóczy

Latest comment: 10 years ago by Norden1990 in topic Name

Name edit

Why do we use a Serbian name for a Hungarian noble and general? He came from the Dóczy de Nagylucse family which had a serious role during the reign of Matthias Corvinus (for example Orbán Dóczy served as Bishop of Eger between 1486 and 1491). Petar Doci is only used in Serbian-related works. Of course, a redirect is justifiable but, in my opinion, the article should be rename to Peter Dóczy. --Norden1990 (talk) 10:37, 26 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

Article title depends on name commonly used in English language sources, not on ethnicity. There are three sources on English language for Petar Doci version and two for Peter Doczy. Taking in consideration that Babinger is using Doczy I don't mind renaming the article to Doczy. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 11:16, 26 July 2013 (UTC)Reply
Do you think 3 and 2 results mean that there is a commonly accepted English name version? These small numbers imply the opposite of this claim. However, that I have said, Dóczy was a Hungarian baron from a Hungarian noble family who held an office of Hungarian dignity (Ban of Jajce, Captain of Belgrade) and appointed by Matthias, the Hungarian king. --Norden1990 (talk) 11:22, 26 July 2013 (UTC)Reply
The point of my comment was to explain that its about sources not about ethnicity. Like I said, I don't mind renaming the article to Doczy.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 12:43, 26 July 2013 (UTC)Reply
OK, I put the Babinger source (English version) into the article. Do not mind if I rename the article? If I ask you, could you impact the Cyrillic variant of his name? --Norden1990 (talk) 13:05, 26 July 2013 (UTC)Reply
Go ahead. I will help with Cyrillic whenever its necessary.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 13:10, 26 July 2013 (UTC)Reply
Article name: Should it be Péter Dóczy or Peter Doczy?--Zoupan 13:44, 26 July 2013 (UTC)Reply
I think Peter Dóczy. Babinger also uses with 'ó' in the index (p. 524) [1]. The book in the main text does not apply the Hungarian accents. See, for example, Báthory - Bathory [2]. Peter (and not Péter) because of the standardization on Medieval Hungarian people (Nicholas Szécsi, John Hunyadi, Michael Szilágyi). --Norden1990 (talk) 14:14, 26 July 2013 (UTC)Reply
I renamed the article. --Norden1990 (talk) 14:09, 27 July 2013 (UTC)Reply