Talk:Peter Beatty

Latest comment: 9 years ago by Montanabw in topic Trainer?

Trainer?

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I'd question whether Beatty was a trainer. Clearly he had horses in training with Fred Darling at Beckhampton, but it would have been very unusual for someone from a money or titled background to train at the time (George Lambton, son of an Earl of Durham, was a rare exception) and given Beatty's poor eyesight it seems unlikely that he was a hands-on trainer. The only written source I have, an encyclopedia of flat racing, describes him only as an owner. --Bcp67 (talk) 19:41, 19 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

I think you're correct - I've only seen him described as an owner in the sources I've read. The Glasgow Herald certainly has that the Derby winner was stabled with Fred Darling for two months before the race [1] and the Milwaukee Journal reports that his manager had to relay details of races to him as his sight was so poor even then [2] If someone hasn't got to it by the morning I will make adjustments then but can't do it just now, I'm afraid! SagaciousPhil - Chat 20:28, 19 March 2015 (UTC)Reply
I'll be bold and do it now! --Bcp67 (talk) 20:30, 19 March 2015 (UTC)Reply
I don't have great access to sources, but for what it's worth, did you folks see this one? . I certainly won't argue that he actually was a trainer ( the only place I could find "bred and trained" language was [ http://www.reigatehistory.co.uk/prioryhistory.htm here]) but I'll note in passing that it is possible for people with low vision to be "trainers" in the race horse sense of dictating the animal's training regimen to exercise personnel - they'd still need some sight to assess what was going on with the animal, but it's not impossible... you can also ride with low vision. Montanabw(talk) 05:51, 21 March 2015 (UTC)Reply