Talk:Petřín Lookout Tower

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Language of the article is not suitable to Wikipedia and needs to be corrected. 80.108.64.239 21:13, 11 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was move to Petřín Lookout Tower. --Regent's Park (Rose Garden) 15:22, 6 February 2009 (UTC)Reply

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Petřínská rozhlednaPetřín lookout tower — This article should named in English. — 121.96.111.196 (talk) 08:21, 30 January 2009 (UTC)Reply

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Different languages have different tendencies when it comes to translation. Generalising doesn't provide insight here. Knepflerle (talk) 15:32, 30 January 2009 (UTC)Reply
"Petřín lookout tower" would be acceptable and I have seen this used - the fully capitalised version is incorrect however, as it has not been adopted into English as a compound proper noun. Knepflerle (talk) 15:37, 30 January 2009 (UTC)Reply
  • It's called Petrin lookout tower in English, maybe the Petrin Hill lookout tower could be sold. Why the diacritics? If you keep them, then I vote to keep the entire Czech name, rather than part of it and part English. Here's a link to the English alphabet. Oh well, there's probably some rule in en.wiki to keep diacritics to disable search functions. --KP Botany (talk) 05:50, 31 January 2009 (UTC)Reply
  • The diacritics are not a problem. If the article is renamed Petřín lookout tower (with diacritics), then Wikipedia will customarily have a redirect from Petrin lookout tower (without diacritics). Nearly all titles having diacritics will have such a redirect. •••Life of Riley (talk) 03:42, 1 February 2009 (UTC)Reply
    • They are incredibly annoying. On most browsers that I have used, if you enter a word and search a long article, and it is written with the diacritics the browser search will not return results. In other words, it's one of those snobby things that Wikipedia does that interferes with usability for the average user. And it serves no purpose. They aren't letters in the English alphabet, and this is en.wiki. --KP Botany (talk) 07:51, 1 February 2009 (UTC)Reply
Actually, I tend to agree that the diacritics can be annoying, chiefly because those of us who have English keyboards (which would be most users of the English Wikipedia) have no means of entering those characters on the keyboard. Nevertheless, Wikipedia practice seems to be using the diacritics. That's why I think we need to go with established practice. Thank goodness we have non-diacritical redirects. •••Life of Riley (talk) 00:32, 2 February 2009 (UTC)Reply
Yes, not much you or I can do about the nonsense that simply makes it hard for native English speakers and users to navigate a Wikipedia page. Still, just to make it known .... --KP Botany (talk) 00:47, 2 February 2009 (UTC)Reply
Besides not having keys on our keyboards, how in the world does one pronounce Petřínská rozhledna, Ruda Śląska, Łódź, Þórðarson, et al.? •••Life of Riley (talk) 01:01, 2 February 2009 (UTC)Reply
They're actually easier than they look, and the rules are much easier to learn than English rules of pronunciation, but, of course, Wikipedia's pronunciation guidelines are impossible to use. Petřínská rozhledna, probably Pet reen ska rozh (like z in azure) led nuh, Ruda Śląska = Rude uh shlanska, Łódź = woodj, like woodja like to come to the show with me? and Þórðarson, probably something along the lines of heck if I know. --KP Botany (talk) 01:09, 2 February 2009 (UTC)Reply

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Any additional comments: 121.96.111.196 (talk) 08:21, 30 January 2009 (UTC)Reply

Expand chapter History

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On http://www.pis.cz/cz/praha/pamatky/petrinska_rozhledna/ one can found an article of the history of Petrinska rozhledna, unfortunately in Czech language. It would be great, if someone could extract more information of it and put it in the article! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.49.64.104 (talkcontribs)

Structural integrity?

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I visited the Petřín Lookout Tower in 2011, and was a bit taken aback to find that visitors up top could feel the tower apparently wobbling. Is there any information, other than my personal experience, that we can reference about the tower's stability? Kelisi (talk) 21:08, 16 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

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