Talk:Persecution of Christians in North Korea
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Contested deletion
editThis page should not be speedily deleted because... (your reason here) --Dunutubble (talk) 20:22, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
- Keep because there is no reason to delete it. It is a significant topic that has gotten many North Koreans arrested and persecuted. It has been extensively covered by the press. And I mean "Press" as in the Washington Post, Forbes, and the Diplomat, not as in Buzzfeed or the Daily Dot. It is worthy of keeping; I referenced it correctly; it has been called a Genocide by all the sources I gave; I'm surprised this has been nominated for Speedy Deletion. This is akin to trying to delete Anfal Campaign or Armenian Genocide. User:MoonlightVector gave no exact reasons why they would delete it. So I would prefer it if you didn't try to delete my article. Dunutubble (talk) 20:22, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
"Genocide of Christians in North Korea" listed at Redirects for discussion
editA discussion is taking place to address the redirect Genocide of Christians in North Korea. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 September 1#Genocide of Christians in North Korea until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 21:55, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
Requested move 3 September 2021
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: Resolved RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 12:13, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
Persecution of christians in North Korea → Persecution of Christians in North Korea – Fixes Spelling Mistakes. Dunutubble (talk) 19:30, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
- Nominated the existing redirect for G6. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 11:44, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
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This page takes testimonies of random Christian organizations as genuine facts.
editInstead of expressing that there are REPORTS from certain sources, the page directly takes testimonies and opinions as undisputable facts. In example: "The services are used to bring in foreign currency from foreign visitors, including South Koreans. It is therefore clear that the churches are solely there for propaganda purposes." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pol revision (talk • contribs) 08:11, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
Edit Reversion
editHi, I reverted a large removal of content because the edit summary claimed the sources were blogs when Christianity Today and Christian Post are magazines not blogs. Also the edit summary claimed that Open Doors was founded and funded by the US government whereas the Wikipedia article makes no mention of that and says it was founded by a Dutchman to distribute bibles. Atlantic306 (talk) 22:21, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Rotprince: Hi, we're supposed to discuss editing disagreements on the talk page not in edit summaries. The most controversial of your edits is saying the persecution of christians in North Korea is only alleged when in fact it has been recognised many times by the United Nations. Serious magazines are allowed as reliable sources as per WP:Reliable sources. Also the claims you make about Open Doors are not mentioned at all in the wikipedia article on them so can I ask you where you have got that information from and is it a reliable source? regards Atlantic306 (talk) 19:38, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- Look up "Open doors funding govt" they openly admit that they take funding from the US. also show me where the UN recognizes this persecution. Rotprince (talk) 15:41, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- See below, the IIE Open Doors is a different organisation to the Open Doors religious charity concerned here. It's been discussed at the Reliable Sources Noticeboard here section 22. Some editors say it is unreliable while another says its information is accurate and backed up by official US documents. The Human Rights Watch reference here states that North Koreans who have defected and then converted to christianity are sentenced to 3 years prison camp on their return. I'll get back to you on the United Nations Atlantic306 (talk) 20:48, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- Look up "Open doors funding govt" they openly admit that they take funding from the US. also show me where the UN recognizes this persecution. Rotprince (talk) 15:41, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Rotprince: Hi, we're supposed to discuss editing disagreements on the talk page not in edit summaries. The most controversial of your edits is saying the persecution of christians in North Korea is only alleged when in fact it has been recognised many times by the United Nations. Serious magazines are allowed as reliable sources as per WP:Reliable sources. Also the claims you make about Open Doors are not mentioned at all in the wikipedia article on them so can I ask you where you have got that information from and is it a reliable source? regards Atlantic306 (talk) 19:38, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- The IIE Open Doors website here says "Open Doors® is a comprehensive information resource on international students and scholars studying or teaching at higher education institutions in the United States, and U.S. students studying abroad for academic credit at their home colleges or universities. This survey of international exchange activity in the United States is sponsored by the U.S. Department of State with funding provided by the U.S. Government and supported in its implementation by IIE." So I don't see how it relates to this Open Doors history here organization? Atlantic306 (talk) 19:55, 9 April 2024 (UTC)