Talk:Pemulwuy

date of birth?

Do we have a source for Pemulwuy being born in 1769? http://www.adb.online.anu.edu.au/biogs/AS10389b.htm has him born around 1750, http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/11/01/1067597158244.html has him around 1760 ("From the age of about 30 in 1790"). I doubt there would be a date as specific as 1769 available, but would like to include the source if possible.WotherspoonSmith (talk) 11:59, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

photo of Pemulwuy

Can we really include a photo and label it "Pemulwuy- the Greatest Aboriginal Warrior"? Clearly, it's not a photo f pemulwuy himself (since photos weren't around in his lifetime) and 'the greatest' is more of an opinion than undisputable fact. Im not usre what the wikipedia protocol is, but how about 'Pemulwuy- a great Aboriginal warrior (artist impression)'. thoughts, anyone? WotherspoonSmith (talk) 14:23, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

death citation

I'm not sure how to edit references so here is a link of a .edu site that references Henry hacking killing Pemulway — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.183.11.112 (talk) 01:15, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

this page reads more like a story than an articleTuypo1 (talk) 12:29, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

The research paper: Kohlhoff, Doug. "Did Henry Hacking shoot Pemulwuy?: A reappraisal" Journal of the Royal Australian Historical Society, Vol. 99, No. 1, Jun 2013: 77-93 disproves the conjecture that Henry Hacking had any involvement with Pemulwuy's death Cabbagepatcher (talk) 10:22, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Amongst other things, the above research paper shows:

• At the time of Pemulwuy's shooting Hacking was in gaol for shooting and wounding his ex. He was delivered to the Lady Nelson to become first mate on July 7, 1802.
• The claims regarding Hacking were based on HMS Investigator sailor Samuel Smith writing in his journal in late July that the Master of the Nelson brig shot Pemulwuy.
• Master was a term in general use at that time to mean the commander of the Lady Nelson and similar vessels, not the first mate.
• Smith had, most likely, either misinterpreted a discussion about Pemulwuy or was repeating a rumour. No one from the Lady Nelson had the opportunity to kill Pemulwuy at the beginning of June.
• The earliest description of Pemulwuy's death was written in (probably early) June by Chapman, King's secretary. The draft of a proclamation, it says two settlers from the Parramatta area were responsible – there is little reason to doubt this.

All other references - including ADB - which say Hacking killed Pemulwuy relate back to KV Smiths's 2003 SMH article which first (incorrectly) conjectured a Hacking involvement. Cabbagepatcher (talk) 11:19, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Tedbury captured in 1805 & other unreliability

Numerous references in The Sydney Gazette to Tedbury at large beyond 1805. http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article627808 I've tagged the reference in the article, if anyone can provide a source? Much else of what appears in the article lacks veracity, and the reference from the Daily Mail which seems to form the basis for much of this article is unverifiable from the information given, and probably a poor source. Unless more sources are given, I think this article is heading for a rewrite, where it deviates significantly from ADB without a verified source. --Inas66 (talk) 04:40, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Can we really say that Pemulwuy was of British nationality? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.45.119.24 (talk) 02:56, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

The article states Prince William found the head. I can't find anything to back that up, although it is fact that he offered to help search for it, after a trip to Australia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.214.152.232 (talk) 12:27, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Pemulwuy the movie petition

There is an interesting petition going on asking for help funding a movie about Pemulwuy:

www.gopetition.com/petitions/pemulwuy-the-movie.html

Petition Background (Preamble): In Australia, there exists a general ignorance about the [ongoing] Aboriginal resistance against colonial invasion. This ignorance is a huge contributing factor in the cultural disrespect which results in the shameful inequality of today's Australian population.

Pemulwuy’s (c.1750–1802) story is an inspirational narrative which permeates the malaise of Australia’s national identity/s. This heroic saga has been aptly depicted by such works as Eric Willmot’s 1987 novel Pemulwuy: The Rainbow Warrior.

Relevant commentary include:

• www.gadigal.org.au/GadigalInfo/Pelmuwuy%20The%20Rainbow%20Warrior.aspx?Id=31 • blogs.sunherald.com.au/whoweare/archives/2008/03/who_we_are_the_11.html • www.adb.online.anu.edu.au/biogs/AS10389b.htm • www.gopetition.com/online/17774.html • www.nswrecon.com/keydocs/NSWRC_E_Newsletter_Mar_08.pdf • www.rumbalara-e.schools.nsw.edu.au/publications/mypeople2.pdf • www.convictcreations.com/history/pelmulwy.htm • www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/perspective/stories/s706273.htm • www.amazon.com/Pemulwuy-Rainbow-Warrior-Eric-Willmot/dp/0947116427 • vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=24631805