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sorry its so short, i intend to add more, just trying to get some info on these online, hopefully it can grow from here
Dictionnaire Infernal - Collin de Plancy (1863) (paraphrased) http://www.deliriumsrealm.com/delirium/demon_deplancy.asp
Togans Spirit Guide
"a companion guide to renaissance spirits"
are some refrences
regarding deletion edit
i am currently attempting to make additions to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dictionnaire_Infernal as the article there seems in order i am making an effort to complete their list of demons and spirits, given time i believe with my knowlege of this matter and companion books i can do this, in the meantime i request these be left so that in the near future i can make proper citations and corrections as well as alow others access to the information i have bagan with. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tophatdan (talk • contribs) 06:27, 21 March 2007 (UTC).
citation edit
i have now provided the citation that was sugested and some other information which i am sure is required, i hope this mullifies the problem, thank you, i am just attempting to do some meaningfull work here.--Tophatdan 08:09, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
About the tags I've added edit
Well, following Tophatdan's job from the Dictionnaire Infernal, I've found that a lot of his work is mostly Original Research. He avoided the deletion once, but looking at the sources (the only one being the mentioned dictionnaire) it is obvious that a lot of the content of the articles is original research. Tophatdan has alleged in some other discussions that he owns a copy of this so called "Togans Spirit Guide" and that a lot of his info is from there. Other editors (including myself) have failed in finding that text (either in digital or printed from, or references to its printing) and some people have even suggested that the name is a mockery from a fictional book from the Ghostbusters. So, even though there are links in the "Resources" section, this links do not address the content of the article. I will try to reference the content that can be traced back to the dictionnaire, and WILL remove all the unreferenced content. If after that, the article fells into a stub, and stays that way for a prolonged period of time, then it could be nominated for a speedy deletion. --Legion fi (talk) 07:14, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
well legion its nice to see that you are trying to clean up my work, and i would wonder to myself what you mean by 'original research' o mean if i quote it word for word from the de plancy people call it infringment, if i work from books in my personal library people say its original research, if i provide publisher information and its not on google people say im making it up, has anyone tried contacting the publisher ? has anyone else bothered to drop by a book store and pick up a book on eastern european mythology, has anyone else bothered to really research this material or is it just easier to delete or dismiss the information, which mind you is valid, is it just easier to do say its not worthy of wikipedia, if thats the case perhaps i should delete them all myself, perhaps no one who dosnt own copies of these wooks deserves to have easy access to thee information. i supose all i can say to my detractors is buy a book... --tophatdan 3:30 pm january 27 2009 —Preceding undated comment was added at 21:31, 27 January 2009 (UTC).