Talk:Payoneer

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Re this edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Payoneer&diff=428723609&oldid=428723403

I agree that some of this seems promotional. Can it be rewritten to only show the facts? Some of this information is important (e.g. how the card is used, that it can be co-branded, and it's uses for travel). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Taltalk (talk • contribs) 15:07, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

I agree it can be rewritten better, but doesn't really have to be deleted. Just IMHO. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.65.204.32 (talk) 22:28, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Deleted an advert for cuentaancariaenusapayoneer .info/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.137.85.199 (talk) 23:08, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Sources

user:Meshatz expressed an interest in improving this article and appears to have some familiarity with the topic. I've put some proper, independent sources together below in hopes of helping to provide a kick-start. My initial impression is that the organization is "notable" but that they either do poor PR or are just not interesting enough for media coverage. However, there are enough sources available to scrap together a short article, especially if someone knows which trade publications, analyst reports, and/or experts to mine for content.

• Hernandez, Will (July 13, 2009). "Guru.com Offers Prepaid Card for Paying Freelancers Abroad". American Banker.
• Peter Mutiso (29 January 2014). Make Money Online In Kenya Through Academic Writing: Freelance Writing in Kenya. MyBusinessTricks.com. pp. 18–. GGKEY:1JLUQDART79.
• Banking Strategies. Bank Administration Institute. 2007.
• Edward Mickolus (3 March 2014). Terrorism, 2008-2012: A Worldwide Chronology. McFarland. pp. 116–. ISBN 978-0-7864-7763-0.

CorporateM (Talk) 17:32, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

After reviewing the prior AfD discussion, I restored a March 2011 version of the article originally written by Meshatz, which appears to be continually re-written into an advert most likely by the company. However, I am concerned about the assassination-related content, which (just based on the current article text) appears to be pure speculation and whether the company was involved in any way is not clear. We generally do not include gossip and speculation, but if it is a primary aspect of the company's notability, my suggestion would be to trim it down to 1 sentence. It could be that this content is what is attracting COI edits repeatedly to the article. CorporateM (Talk) 17:51, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

More from the prior afd discussion [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] CorporateM (Talk) 23:28, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Assassination

This New York Post story (a highly reliable source) seems to explain why Payoneer had such a prominent placement in media coverage about the assassination of Mahmoud Al-Mabhouh. It wasn't just that their cards were used, but that the company's CEO has previously a member of Israeli special forces (a country that wanted him dead), he previously spoke out in favor of Israeli on its side of the conflict and many of the company's backers are Israeli banks. So there is speculation on whether it was really by chance that his company's cards were used to finance the operations of the assassinaters. However, it is also still highly speculative and I am split on how to best portray it. CorporateM (Talk) 20:58, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

As CorporateM said above the assassination is highly speculative and not 100% facts so I deleted the part about it. I believe Wikipedia should be about facts and avoid harming a person or organization with speculations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.176.104.95 (talk) 22:59, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Criticism of Payoneer's business practices

Should criticism of PAyoneer and its business practices be included in Wikipedia if it appears that some of its users get hurt? Here's one such report http://webmaster-tips.tumblr.com/post/104099005286/payoneer-sucks-scam-warning-a-personal-opinion 36.237.141.143 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 15:57, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

If such criticisms have been reported by credible publications that have a reputation of fact-checking, than they should be included as part of a balanced article. Typically this should not be done in a "Criticisms" section, as this becomes a dumping ground for (often poorly-sourced) criticisms, but in a Reception, Products, or Corporate History section like all the other content in a boring and historical manner. At a glance, the source provided does not look strong enough to include it, but if the reports of problems are widespread enough, someone like The New York Times, an academic or trade magazine will cover it and in those cases it should be included. CorporateM (Talk) 23:08, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Criticism revisted:

... the arrangement changed in late 2016 for some Payoneer customers. Under the change, Payoneer shifted from being a fiduciary to the customers, meaning it had to put their interests first, to being a service provider to Choice Bank. That meant customers would have to ask Belize-based Choice Bank to solve any problems. When Choice Bank failed in 2018, customers had to try to get their money back from the liquidator appointed by the central bank of Belize rather than get help from Payoneer.

Two and a half years after the Choice Bank failure, its liquidator is making final distributions to depositors and creditors — roughly 80 cents on the dollar, ...

Let us add this, with a a better VER: https://www.riskscreen.com/kyc360/news/secret-documents-reveal-potential-dark-side-of-prepaid-debit-cards/

Tel Aviv

"With offices in Tel Aviv", really? Aren't they located in Petah Tikva? -79.179.138.171 (talk) 18:23, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Apparently its offices are based in Petah Tikva as you say, which can be considered a suburb of Tel-Aviv. Reference: their "careers" page: https://www.payoneer.com/careers/

My personal opinion is that it's more valuable to mention Tel-Aviv, which is much more widely known, than insisting on the specific suburb name.

For instance, LexisNexis has offices in Chatswood, NSW, Australia, a suburb of Sydney, but it would be more practical to report it as simply "Sydney". Amosshapira (talk) 03:20, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Further reading

• Washington Post
• The Economic Times
• Deccan Herald
• New York Post
• International Business Times

Moving here for storage per WP:ELNO. K.e.coffman (talk) 03:22, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

• None of these source qualify for removal per WP:ELNO. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 19:26, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Update History Section

Hi. I am Melisa and I work at Payoneer. There are a few things I want to request be added to the History section, to keep the article up to date.

• Please add the following two sentences to the end of the History section:

In May 2022 the company began to offer Payoneer Checkout, a service which enables merchants to work with direct-to-customer (DTC) online stores.

In June 2022, Payoneer began a partnership with Optty, a "Buy now, pay later," (BNPL), purchasing platform to make the service available to Payoneer customers.

References

Thank you for your help, Melisa Melisa Sukman (talk) 08:20, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

Hi Ptrnext. I noticed that you recently made an edit to Payoneer, so perhaps you would be interested in looking over my edit request above and implementing it. Thanks. Melisa Sukman (talk) 07:25, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

 Partly done Hello Melisa Sukman: I've added the first part. The provided citations are a bit iffy, IMO (I understand PYMNTS.com citations are already used as a source, but their articles don't seem any more than a digest of the press release; and am not aware of their editorial practices). For the checkout service, I could at least find a few more sources, so I added one along with a press release. For the second part, I didn't find any solid independent source; also, Optty itself doesn't appear to be too notable (no wikilink either), so I've skipped it. Ptrnext (talk) 06:15, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Payoneer Inc. vs. Payoneer Global Inc.

Is this article about Payoneer Inc. (a subsidiary of Payoneer Global Inc.) [8] that was founded in 2005, or Payoneer Global Inc., formerly New Starship Parent Inc., which acquired it in 2021? [9]

The article should be a bit more specific about the history while the info panel should be about a single legal entity, not both. D00kSI (talk) 20:41, 18 November 2022 (UTC)