Talk:Paul A. Goble

Link to his blog

We are not here to advertise his blog. WP:EL says: (What should be normally avoided?) Links to blogs, personal web pages and most fansites, except those written by a recognized authority (this exception is meant to be very limited; as a minimum standard, recognized authorities always meet Wikipedia's notability criteria for biographies). The guideline explicitly discourages from linking to personal blogs. A link to his professional page at the Institute of World Politics would be a much better choice and enough. Offliner (talk) 05:07, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Did you miss the bit I underlined above? Goble is a recognised authority on Eurasia, and that is the topic covered in his blog Window on Eurasia. Martintg (talk) 05:35, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

• The question at hand is: what makes you think that this freak is a "recognized authority" on Eurasia?? In fact, there is only one citation in the article and I firmly believe that on closer scrutiny he would not even pass Wikipedia's notability guideline! Google Scholar shows only a handful of poorly cited works (and even those usually from 2 decades ago at that). This sums it up succinctly: the oft-cited “Eurasia expert” whose output seems to consist entirely of recycling stories from marginal Russian commentators . Indeed, his so-called blog is, in fact, only a motley collection of syndicated articles ranging from the ridiculous to the batshit crazy. There is very little original content there. So, the objection raised in this debate may be perfectly valid. Antikapitalista (talk) 11:18, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

No, I didn't miss that bit. The guideline discoures external links to personal blogs and websites, no matter what exceptions there are. If we can link to a undisputably reliable source (such as the institute) instead, then that takes precedence, and there is no need to link to his blog. Offliner (talk) 05:41, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Do you understand what the word except means? Do you understand the phrase exception to the rule means? In this case the rule is: no blogs are to be linked; the exception to that rule is: except those written by recognized experts. Martintg (talk) 05:49, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Do you understand the spirit of the guideline? Links to blogs and personal web pages are discouraged. Links to reliable sources should be preferred. Offliner (talk) 06:03, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Sure, but why mention an exception, if it is against the "spirit"? Anyway, Goble's blog may be even notable enough for a standalone article about it, The Economist states: "Paul Goble chronicles in his “Window on Eurasia” bulletins (a must-read for anyone interested in the politics of post-Soviet ethnicity)". Martintg (talk) 07:05, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

That's a silly argument. If we're having an article on Goble, then it makes sense to link to Goble's blog. Goble's blog is a venue of publication of Goble's thoughts, and as such, its notability is tied to Goble's own notability -- which is sufficient for him to have a Wikipedia article. This is also what the policy says. Unlike some other cases, Goble's blog is also a reliable source for Goble's assessment and opinions, so it would even be eligible (and attributed to Goble, naturally) for citations where Goble is, although, of course, it shouldn't be the first resort. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 11:41, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Goble on 2020 NKR ceasefire statement

This is the only Goble interview after 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh war I was able to find. Putting it here, the authors of the article may want to use fragments of it - Goble appears to be notable mostly due to this "Goble's plan", after all.

https://www.turan.az/ext/news/2020/11/free/Interview/en/129840.htm --Armatura (talk) 17:33, 31 May 2021 (UTC)