Talk:Paterson Inlet

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Latest comment: 2 years ago by Mellohi! in topic Requested move 24 June 2022

Redirect?

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Why the redirect? Is there another Paterson Inlet? Grutness 06:00, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Moved over redirect to Paterson Inlet. Liveste (talkedits) 21:30, 9 June 2010 (UTC)Reply
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Requested move 15 September 2021

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. per discussion consensus and WP:NCNZ. There may be an ongoing discussion about changing that convention, but for now, the current guideline is how we adjudicate and close discussions. When/if that guideline changes to not support dual names here, this can be revisited. (closed by non-admin page mover) — Shibbolethink ( ) 12:52, 26 September 2021 (UTC)Reply


Paterson InletPaterson Inlet / Whaka a Te Wera – official name since 1998[1], it's time to update this Gryffindor (talk) 08:42, 15 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

Wikipedia does not give preference to official names over common names. (For clarity, consider the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland or North Korea.) Please provide evidence that “Paterson Inlet / Whaka a Te Wera” is the predominant name outside of official usage. — HTGS (talk) 00:50, 17 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
Support - moving to an official dual name follows a longstanding precedent for places in NZ that officially have dual place names, as Paterson Inlet / Whaka a Te Wera does. Publications referencing the inlet use the dual name, as do mapping services and other sources. Turnagra (talk) 08:04, 19 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • Oppose The guidelines are very clear that the official name of a place is not sufficient to change the title of a Wikipedia article. As per WP:NCGN, WP:RECENTISM, and WP:COMMONNAME, there is not sufficient evidence to show that the requested name is commonly used to the point were an article name change is required. Furthermore, the "long precedent" of doing so involves for the most part a couple of users supporting each move and does not represent a consensus, and it is dishonest to claim as such. Users not understanding naming conventions and changing article names should not be seen as a precedent, and if it is, the only precedent that has been established is a precedent of ignoring guidelines for WP:ADVOCACY Spekkios (talk) 09:20, 20 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
  1. Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (New Zealand)#Dual names
  2. Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (New Zealand)#Does a consensus for the section "Dual and alternative place names" exist?
There may be some question of whether the relevant aspect of NZ naming conventions actually reflect[s] the consensus of the community. While these discussions are ongoing, I decline to present my own opinion on this proposed move. BilledMammal (talk) 07:14, 25 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
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Move discussion in progress

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Requested move 24 June 2022

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The result of the move request was: moved. Seems to be the common name. (closed by non-admin page mover)Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 19:29, 1 July 2022 (UTC)Reply


Paterson Inlet / Whaka a Te WeraPaterson Inlet – Per WP:COMMONNAME and WP:CONCISE. The current dual name sees minimal use in reliable and independent sources, with no news sources and only 21 scholarly sources mentioning both names, and even less using a dual name. In comparison, 72 news sources and 657 scholarly sources use the proposed title. BilledMammal (talk) 08:15, 24 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

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