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What is so special about Nigeria that it warrants its own article about paternity fraud? Can we merge it into the Paternity fraud article as a separate section? I have only tagged this article at the moment because I perceive that this article is trying to discuss the situation in Nigeria and starting to examine and compare the parallel situation in other countries. At this stage I am wondering if this sort of information should be in a country specific article or if a global article should contain the information. However, the global article does not set out the prevalence of paternity fraud, only the law. Is there something about Nigerian law that makes paternity fraud a criminal offence, when it is not in other countries. In many countries, the attributed paternity at the birth of a child is considered the child's father, this is usually accepted at face value unless he actively disavows parenthood and challenges the allegation of parenthood. A parent who raises a child and subsequently finds he is not the biological parent can also claim he is still the psychological parent of the child because of his involvement in parenting the child after birth. So a DNA test is not necessarily the final word. Parenting is as much a social construct as a genetic one as fathers may accept fatherhood, even knowing the results of a paternity test. It only becomes fraud if there is an attempt to mislead and cover up the facts for financial or other gain. Cameron Dewe (talk) 09:26, 13 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Cameron Dewe: Your first sentence was literally in my head as I read this article. But for a merge...merge what? Does this article say much other than "sometimes dad isn't dad"? You're right: the target article has sections for various countries, but they're discussions of precedent and case law. This article is...something other than that. Joyous! | Talk02:47, 27 November 2022 (UTC)Reply
@Joyous!: After I tagged this article as a merger with the Paternity fraud, somebody else has come along and changed this proposal to be a merger to the Paternity fraud article. As you say: "... merge what?" I distinctly recall I deliberately chose the "With" option because I was uncertain about the "fit" of this article with the one about paternity fraud and if it could be successfully merged, or if the two articles needed some other form of treatment. At least part of this article is about the social construct of fatherhood in Nigeria, rather than the legal situation that involves child support. This may or may not be fraudulent. Looking at this now, the articles about a Non-paternity event and Paternity law, as well as Father and Parenting are also alternative candidates for a merger. At this stage, I would rather have a discussion about what this article is really about, because I don't think the article is about what I perceive as paternity fraud. Without more insight into the Nigerian situation, I don't know if merger is the best thing to do, or not. The fact it has taken almost a year to even get a reaction to my comment suggest this article is not the most important thing occupying Nigerian minds at the moment. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 04:59, 27 November 2022 (UTC)Reply
As far as I know, "merge with" and "merge to" are roughly the same thing: some of one article should blend in with the other one. But...I don't see anything that would go anywhere. This is so poorly written. Maybe research to find enough actual information to add to the sub-section on laws in various countries, over at Paternity fraud, then either make this one a redirect there, or delete it completely. Joyous! | Talk05:23, 27 November 2022 (UTC)Reply
Support proposal to merge Paternity fraud in NigeriatoPaternity fraud for reasons of short text and context. On the technical question of templates, I'm certainly a fan of indicating the intended direction; a reverse direct merge would be absurd, and the template should reflect the sensible course of action (which is why I attempted to clarify the template ...). I also read Cameron Dewe's second sentence in the proposal ... Klbrain (talk) 07:43, 27 November 2022 (UTC)Reply