Talk:Palasinaz Lakes (Italy)

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This page is part of an Educational Project by students of LIUC, Italy, with a course page at: https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/courses/LIUC_-_Universit%C3%A0_Cattaneo/Digital_Technology_(Autumn,_2021) The users of the group are new to the Wikipedia platform and are learning to edit following Wikipedia rules. They are open to any advice on improvements of the page in conformity to Wikipedia requirements and guidelines, and any help useful for the enhancement of the page will be gladly accepted. The student User names are:

• LIUCeleonoraTEAM7

• LIUCpietroTEAM7

• LIUCPaoloCharlesTEAM7

• LiucGaiaTeam7

• LIUCedoardoTEAM7

• LIUCgiulianaTEAM7

Limelightangel (talk) 15:11, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

Discussion

To do list

- Embedded map

- Embedded Geographic coordinates

- Wikimedia commons: search for maps and identify the location of the lakes

- Info box

- What other sites can it be linked to

- History of the area

- Geology of the area

- Trails

- Neighbouring villages --> Gressoney, Aosta...

- Flora & Fauna --> are there fish in the lake?

- References

- Review structure

LIUCPaoloCharlesTEAM7 (talk) 12:02, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

Hi, everyone. As pointed out by the professor, we need some more information about the 5 lakes quoted at the beginning of our draft page. Should we add a new section about this part or talk about it in the "Location"? What do you suggest? LiucGaiaTeam7 (talk) 16:20, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi Gaia, I think we should create a new section about the 5 lakes so that we can also move there the table regarding the five lakes. LIUCedoardoTEAM7 (talk) 13:02, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi, i added some more information about Estoul. I didn't find so much information about it but i think i have found the most important features. Hope it's all good! LIUCgiulianaTEAM7 (talk) 18:02, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi, just to let you know that i already add "see also" and "external links" sections. LIUCgiulianaTEAM7 (talk) 15:27, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Giuliana! I added some more information about the possible paths and I also noticed that in Wikipedia there's also not a section about Lago di Bringuez, which is also known as "Lago delle Streghe". It is also near the paths so I thought we could add an other section about it. What do you think? LiucGaiaTeam7 (talk) 15:35, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

I think we could add a section for "similar hiking trails" or "nearby hiking trail" but we should clearly state that Lago Delle Streghe is not part of the Palasinaz Lakes or that might be irrelevant to our page. You can surely add it and then we will see if it's a right fit.LIUCeleonoraTEAM7 (talk) 13:07, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

Looking at the page, the images of the lakes are perfect, however I think they are a little messy as they currently are. Should we make a gallery with all the photos of the lakes or should we place them better on the page next to their description?LIUCeleonoraTEAM7 (talk) 13:11, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

I agree, I think we could do both. I'll try and fix how they are presented. Also, did anyone link-in already? LIUCedoardoTEAM7 (talk) 15:19, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

I just saw that Gaia linked in from the already existing Brusson page, so I linked in from the Corno Bussola one. LIUCedoardoTEAM7 (talk) 15:58, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

I just fixed the gallery, it was missing a template. LIUCedoardoTEAM7 (talk) 15:41, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

I think that the "Five lakes" section should be apart from the Location, since in there we talk about specific towns. LIUCedoardoTEAM7 (talk) 17:09, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

Yes, Edoardo, I agree with you. I think that would be more organized. LiucGaiaTeam7 (talk) 09:06, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

Draft Review 27/2021

• References 2, 3 and 6 are duplicate, and need the correct use of the ref name field in the relevant Cite template. Limelightangel (talk) 08:27, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

• Style: 'ancient history', not 'extremely ancient'

• There is adequate breadth and depth of content and sources. Limelightangel (talk) 08:27, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

• The page needs a relevant infobox, map, images, sections on External links, see Also, and possibly a Gallery. It also needs tabulated data on the respective lakes (names, altitude, location, depth, volume of water, etc.) Limelightangel (talk) 08:27, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Draft Review 15/11/2021

• remove duplicate links out from the text and External links section. See the sectiom on Duplicate and repeat links at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Linking

Fixed LIUCedoardoTEAM7 (talk) 10:35, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• remove the many irrelevant links out ('over linking') e.g. hamlet, ridge, terrace (and wrong page), snowshoes, etc. See the section on What generally should not be linked at Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Linking

Fixed LIUCedoardoTEAM7 (talk) 10:35, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

Should names of activities such as trekking, mountain biking and animal species be linked out or they are considered irrelevant since everyone knows what they are?LIUCeleonoraTEAM7 (talk) 09:40, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

I think we should keep those, they are relevant to the topic. LIUCedoardoTEAM7 (talk) 11:27, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• use the Cite Web template correctly for ref. 3. See Template:Cite_web.

Fixed LiucGaiaTeam7 (talk) 11:18, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• grammar: I have corrected a range of issues, but others remain to be fixed e.g. in the InfoBox, in Climate, etc.

Fixed. LIUCgiulianaTEAM7 (talk) 11:31, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• style: remove subjective and personal text e.g. 'you quickly', 'you can view', 'ideal', 'easy', 'simple', 'on the other hand', etc.

Fixed. LIUCgiulianaTEAM7 (talk) 11:30, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• consistency: create consistency both within the article and with the platform conventions (see, for example, Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style e.g. Use consistent and correct formats for distance, centuries, use of bold, use of italics, Palsina or Palsinaz, etc.

Fixed. LIUCgiulianaTEAM7 (talk) 11:30, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• relevance: the content on Brusson needs to be moved to the existing page on Brusson; some of the images lack relevance to the topic, and may be deleted e.g. marmots, etc.

• images: improve the captions for clarity e.g. location of image = Lac X, Vallee d'Ayas, Italy

Fixed. LiucGaiaTeam7 (talk) 11:17, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• content: the sections on History, Geology and Flora/Fauna need more topic-specific factual data and explicit topic relevancy e.g. on the battle; when exactly was the 'feudal era'? What are the path numbers? etc.
• structure: fix the unclear sub-section on 'path continued'.

Fixed. LiucGaiaTeam7 (talk) 11:19, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• references: where it is stated 'medieval sources' and 'ancient documents', provide explicit references for these sources.

Fixed LIUCedoardoTEAM7 (talk) 11:04, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• use of Talk page: edit this page to improve structure, respond to Talk discussions, and sign off completed tasks or responses.

Limelightangel (talk) 11:34, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the feedback, we will divide our work between us, so if the group could reply here so it is clear as to who needs to do what: I will be correcting grammatical mistakes and syntax.LIUCPaoloCharlesTEAM7 (talk) 09:28, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

I'm improving the captions of the images LiucGaiaTeam7 (talk) 09:32, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

I'm deleting irrelevant links and double links; then I will be correcting the style for heights and distancesLIUCeleonoraTEAM7 (talk) 10:10, 16 November 2021 (UTC)