Talk:Painesville, Ohio

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I noticed that the population for the city itself looked correct. But when the article stated, "including the township 52,401," the article is incorrect. There are only 16K residents in Painesville Township. You might get 52,401 if you include the 16K residents living in near by Concord township as well? Did the author intend this? mdedmonds {chat} 03:30, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Page needs updated

This article needs updated, it appears to be way off currently. Though I know that this article was based off of the 2000 census, I happen to know that not 3/4 people in Painesville are white. And also, I know for a fact that 35% of all students in Painesville City Local Schools are hispanic, and it says here that the city's population is 13% hispanic. I don't see how this is possible. Nasakebukai 20:07, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

How do you 'know' the percentage of whites? What source are you referencing? And, it is easy for 13% of the population to provide 35% of the students. One does not have anything to do with the other. For example, 100% of the students could be Hispanic if 87% of the population were not students. Your 35% figure would be relevant to a story about the school population, not the city's census, but only with a reliable reference. Yunchie (talk) 20:50, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Filming Location - Reverting Edits

I have reverted a recent edit to the article, Painesville, Ohio, concerning the filming location of One Potato, Two Potato. First, your statement is incorrect, as an office building actually sits on that spot now (according to a Google Street Level map), not a 'government parking lot', and your addition in general, is not relevant to the story of the Parmly being part of the filming location. Additionally, it sounds like an editorial comment, rather than an encyclopedic fact. An expansion of the filming location story, based on reputable sources would be a better contribution. Yunchie (talk) 20:21, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Painesville Geography

The paragraph in the Geography section of this article concerning the "embedding in the township" needs to be rewritten. It is filled with "Peakcock Terms", and editorializing about a government presence. Yunchie (talk) 20:29, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Painesville and "Peacocks"

The paragraph recently added to the Geography section of "Painesville, Ohio" by this resident of that city was to make clear the significant distinction, all but ignored in the original article, between the city and the surrounding township, a separate municipality under the same name. Any fellow scholar is of course encouraged to refine its discussion of the differing look, feel, and prosperity of the two sociopolitical entities. The clause added to the "One Potato, Two Potato" section is intended to set the record straight on the "centerpiece" (itself a peacock term?) Parmly hotel, since it no longer exists and has not done so for well over a decade. The parking lot where it used to stand is incidentally the site of the city's Thursday farmers' market during the summer months. Any map (Google or otherwise) purporting to show a building on the site is simply out of date, as a visit to the block will instantly confirm.75.33.62.15 (talk) 03:16, 3 December 2009 (UTC)ProfHumez

Ok, you are absolutely mistaken. The site of the Parmly Hotel is now occupied by the New Market Mall (or whatever it is called now...Victoria Square). Look at this map (street level view). The Parmly was torn down in the 70's, and was located on the southwest corner of Main St. and the Park. That area is not a parking lot. The area that you are thinking of, regarding the Farmer's Market is on the other end of Main St. between State and St. Clair.

The intent of the section about the filming location is meant to convey what the area was like in 1963, when the film was made, not what has happened to it since. If you want to discuss the changes of downtown Painesville, do so in another section of the article and stop vandalizing this section, which I am reverting as such.

I also will argue that the term "centerpiece' is not a 'Peacock' term as the Parmly and the park across the street was certainly a central element of the film. Remember, the section is about the film and the location.

Regarding your other paragraph about the difference between the township and the city, I have no issue, other than your editorializing with various non-encyclopedic, non-neutral terms. It is a perfectly fine idea, that only needs to be rewritten. Yunchie (talk) 03:42, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Regarding the continued vandalism of this article, I also continue to point out that the section about the filming location is intended to give a glimpse of the location in 1964, not the present. Of course, the building is not there any longer, a fact that is not relevant to this section of the article any more than the 1950 & 1960 cars in the scene are no longer there. It is a look at a moment in time, not a soapbox for your unreferenced statement of what has happened since. Yunchie (talk) 04:14, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Filming Location (Parmly Hotel)

In response to a recent edit war about the demise of the Parmly Hotel, and the relevance of that fact on the article's section about the filming location, I have done a minor rewrite to better define that the section is about the appearance of the city during the era of the filming, but still indicate that the Parmly is now gone without speculating about that history.

So far, this section is only referenced by the film itself and its success at the film festival. I would also suggest that anyone with easy access to research local newspaper publications at the time of the filming, could expand on this section greatly. Yunchie (talk) 15:09, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Geography - Embedded In Painesville Township

Research of publications about the so-called 'urban renewal' process of the city's downtown, which I am aware has been a sore spot amongst the city's residents for a long time, could create a distinct section that would be a valuable addition to this article. In the meantime, the highly-opinionated material should be removed. The fact that the City of Painesville is embedded in Painesville Township could be included with a simple link to that page. Yunchie (talk) 15:30, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Lubrizol

Lubrizol is listed as a company in Painesville City. It is not in Painesville City, it is in Painesville Twp. It should be rmeoved 2603:6010:A005:5A22:83B:A020:E0C1:D7C8 (talk) 00:38, 26 April 2023 (UTC)