Talk:Pahari language

Disambiguation page or Set Index

Noting Uanfala's intention to fix incoming links to this page before tagging it as a disambiguation page, and the difficulty or impossibility of determining which Pahari is intended in some cases, might making this page a set index article at some time make life easier? That is, we might accept that sometimes, eg due to lack of sources, we cannot currently know which Pahari language or group to which we should link. It might avoid the temptation of taking a guess at the intended language, even if a well-informed guess based for example on geographic location. Batternut (talk) 23:18, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

I have no preferences as to whether this is treated as a WP:SIA, or as a WP:BCA, or as an article about a glottonym. My only preference is that it is not treated as a dab page. That's partly because of what you describe, but also partly because dab pages have a relatively strict manual of style, which this page does not follow (it's got references for example, and it provides a bit more detail than normally found on dab pages). If it were tagged as a dab page, sooner or later people will come along to "repair" it to conform with the dab manual of style. – Uanfala (talk) 23:58, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

From WP:SIA: "Being a set of a specific type means that the members of the set have some characteristic in common, in addition to their similarity of name. A list is an SIA only if both criteria for inclusion of an item in the list are met. For example, every entry in a list of earthquakes might include the word "earthquake," but that alone does not mean that the list is an SIA" (emphasis in the original). IMO that rules the SIA proposal out.

The references need to be moved into the individual articles. They're all bluelinked.

Also, I tend to dislike SIAs. They collect bad links, and there's no easy way of finding and fixing them. Narky Blert (talk) 13:30, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

It would be "a set of Indian/Pakistani languages that all contain the word Pahari", rather than "a set of languages that all contain the word language" (as the earthquakes example).

Regarding collecting "bad links", that might describe cases like Kailash Mehra Sadhu where sources mention Pahari, but we cannot know which Pahari. What should we do there? The options seem to be:

a) Link to a BCA or SIA.

b) Link to a dab page and leave the dab fixers an impossible task.

c) Link to ... (disambiguation) page to mark it as intentionally ambiguous.

d) Take an educated guess at which Pahari is most likely.

Re moving bluelink refs, I don't understand this issue... Batternut (talk) 17:08, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Pahari and hindko

Pahari is much similiar with hindko and is spoken in various regions of azad kashmir and in some regions of kpk. But its style changes from region to region. It is also colinked with gujari language and punjabi. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Umer Ilyas shaheen (talk • contribs) 02:24, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

Pahari in ajk

Pahari is extensively spoken with different styles in different regions of ajk in muzaffarabad, the capital of ajk, it is mother language of almost all natives. It acts as main language for communication among natives of ajk. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Umer ilyas shahin (talk • contribs) 02:49, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

That's covered in the very first article listed on this page: Pahari-Pothwari. – Uanfala (talk) 12:17, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

phj

Now there's a new code phj available for another "Pahari" language, do we have ideas that which article this code is pointed to? See also the Change Request 2021-006. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 05:51, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

There's a mention of it at Newar language, so that's one likely target. – Uanfala (talk) 12:45, 28 January 2022 (UTC)