Talk:PL-01

Latest comment: 10 years ago by Benlisquare in topic Mass production for whom?

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This link features a poorly translated copy of the Polish Wikipedia article, which is released under a GFDL license. The bot is giving a copyvio false positive. --benlisquareTCE 00:34, 30 December 2013 (UTC)Reply

Mass production for whom?

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The article (and DYK) hook says that this AFV is scheduled to enter mass production in 2018. But it doesn't identify any country as having actually ordered the thing. One of the references given for this statement ( http://motoryzacja.interia.pl/wiadomosci/news/taki-bedzie-nowy-polski-maly-czolg-mamy-jego-zdjecia,1949958,3491,strona,1,r,65830340,pst,65830919#pst65830919 ) actually expresses scepticism about it ever entering production, and states that "One can not be sure whether it will just look Polish tank of the future - the first fully functional prototype is built for in 2018" according to Google translate. The other reference given (http://tech.wp.pl/kat,130034,title,Polski-superczolg-PL-01-prawdziwa-bestia,wid,15951109,wiadomosc.html?ticaid=111f59) states that this is a concept vehicle "and the final version will probably be radically different from what we see at this year's event". As such, it would seem that the hook is totally wrong. Nick-D (talk) 23:12, 3 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Further, Jane's explicitly states that this is a concept vehicle: http://www.janes.com/article/26624/mspo-2013-pl-01-concept-vehicle-unveiled and implies that it will be evaluated against the CV90. It includes a photo of what appears to be the same exhibition as is pictured in the article, with the word "concept" painted on the side of the tank. Nick-D (talk) 23:33, 3 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
My apologies for not thoroughly checking the sources, I've missed a very important point. The first source reads "Sam czołg PL-01 ma zaś trafić do produkcji w 2018 roku, przy czym już w 2016 powinniśmy zobaczyć w pełni działające prototypy", and the second one mentions something similar; hence, I'll reword the sentence a bit within the lead paragraph so that it takes into account the tank being evaluated for feasibility, and that it isn't definite. The 2016 and 2018 dates are properly sourced, the article just needs clarification that the concept project isn't finalised yet. --benlisquareTCE 00:02, 4 January 2014 (UTC)Reply