Talk:Owen Paterson/Archive 1

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"Nazis" claim

I have deleted the allegation that Paterson "called" his anti-hunting opponents "Nazis". I know it was sourced, but the source was a blog by a pro-green commentator. I have checked the original source, to which the blog claim is linked, which states that he "likened his opponents to Nazis", which is not quite the same. He was drawing parallels with 1936 legislation by Nazi Germany. Viewfinder (talk) 17:17, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

I am mostly OK with the article is at the time of writing. The claim that he defied David Cameron and ministerial convention over same sex marriage is sourced, bit I am perplexed by the source. Was there not a free vote on same sex marriage, in which case was not Paterson was free to speak for and vote with his personal conscience despite being a minister? Viewfinder (talk) 08:04, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Neutrality

I am not content with the section on his time at DEFRA. It seems to have its purpose as documenting his unsuitability for the post, which is clearly an unencyclopedic approach. EdwardRussell (talk) 15:22, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Quoting from WP:NPOVD, "Everyone can agree that marking an article as having an NPOV dispute is a temporary measure, and should be followed up by actual contributions to the article in order to put it in such a state that people agree that it is neutral." Many months have now passed, allowing ample opportunity for anyone who seriously believed that the section violated NPOV to make any corrections they saw fit. Since no substantial changes have been made, it seems reasonable to assume consensus in favour of the section as it stood has been regained. I have therefore removed the POV-section tag. zazpot (talk) 11:59, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Recent unjustified edits

Recently some edits were done, with no reason given in the edit summaries except the words "Add" and "Tidy". I reverted them, suggesting that the editor explain on the talk page. That didn't happen, but I see that user Zazpot reverted the reversion -- without taking it to the talk page. Without conceding that the original editor has no responsibility to explain, I'll take it to the talk page myself. (1) | This edit said Paterson was "sacked". I suppose the defence for that could be "but it's true" (see WP:MOTHERSGRAVE); however, no RS was given and the word does not appear to have been used by the people involved. (2) | This edit pretends that Paterson said Sells was his "preferred candidate", using quote marks. Paterson didn't say those words, the reporter did, so this is is simply false. (3) The edit describes Sells as having "no background in ecology or the environment", whatever that means. (I rather thought that we all have backgrounds in the environment.) Although Sells may not be widely known (see WP:NOTPUBLICFIGURE), his bio does mention the Royal Horticultural Society and his commercial activity seems to have involved a gardening company. (3) The edit says Paterson was "refusing to meet with" Ian Boyd, then cites an article that says Paterson met Boyd twice. (4) The edit says Paterson was "taking advice from" the the Global Warming Policy Foundation, but the cited source only says Paterson is "linked to" it, which can't be used because nobody says who did the linking, see WP:WEASEL. (5) This edit points to an opinion piece in The Guardian which isn't about Paterson, though it might have fit in a Defra article. (6) The edit says "Paterson was one of a number of right-wingers who were appointed to placate a growing "anti-windfarm mood" on the backbenches". Again, that's the opinion of a Guardian columnist, which is not the same as a fact. (7) The edit changes the punctuation from British style -- "complete nonsense". -- to American style -- "complete nonsense." -- in an article about a British subject, see WP:ENGVAR. And, in case the big notice at the top of this page has been missed: WP:BLP applies. Peter Gulutzan (talk) 16:56, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

The clarification above is much appreciated :) zazpot (talk) 18:36, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

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