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Who is mr. Wiebull?
editI wrote the math stuff in LaTeX, but started to wonder about the mentioned "Wiebull's formula". I am aware of Weibull's distribution that is written in the same form sans the constant. Are these the same? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.50.133.12 (talk) 19:10, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
The formula appears to be empirically derived and appears to be from: H.R.W. Weibull, "Pressures Recorded in Partially Closed Chambers at Explosion of TNT Charges," Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences, 152, Art. I, pp. 357-361, Oct 1968. Someone should verify this and add it as a reference.Kevin Purcell (talk) 01:31, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
I feel like it should be more clear that this equation only relates to explosions in closed chambers, and has nothing to do with calculating an explosion in open air.66.185.79.254 (talk) 23:19, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
Too technical
edit- This article is way too technical. Could somebody who understands this reword it to be more accessible? 18:24, 24 March 2009 User:132.206.124.57
Overpressure Effects
editI have deleted the section of overpressure effects because the values presented are misleading. While I do not have first hand knowledge of explosive effects, other references on explosive power indicate that explosive overpressure is approximately 4000 psi for TNT near the explosive. The overpressures referenced in the table are clearly meant to be interpreted as being some distance away from a defined quantity of an explosive. However, these variables are not specified. While the damage levels seem to me to be consistent with published literature, a more reliable source should be found to substantiate these effects, rather than a conspiracy-theory backing account insisting that severe burn injuries cannot be caused by explosives, and that a "mini-nuke" was responsible for the event in question. Fizyxnrd (talk) 23:14, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
I question the levels set out in the table, with 10psi ripping off limbs.
The estimation seems to be based on destruction of buildings, rather than actual effects.
See second table on the page: http://response.restoration.noaa.gov/oil-and-chemical-spills/chemical-spills/resources/overpressure-levels-concern.html
That being said, this refers to enclosed refuge chambers http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/docket/archive/pdfs/NIOSH-125/125-ExplosionsandRefugeChambers.pdf, mentioning the 10psi as deadly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Csprucefield (talk • contribs) 14:25, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
Meaning in geology
editI intend to remove the following from the article as it's about a different subject to atmospheric/blast overpressure that the rest of the article is about (see WP:NAD). This could be placed in its own article, but it's completely uncited. DexDor (talk) 13:45, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
- Geologic overpressure
- Geological overpressure in stratigraphic layers is caused by the inability of connate pore fluids to escape as the surrounding mineral matrix compacts under the lithostatic pressure caused by overlying layers. Fluid escape may be impeded by sealing of the compacting rock by surrounding impermeable layers (such as evaporites, chalk and cemented sandstones). Alternatively, the rate of burial of the stratigraphic layer may be so great that the efflux of fluid is not sufficiently rapid to maintain hydrostatic pressure.
- Common situations where overpressure may occur: in a buried river channel filled with coarse sand that is sealed on all sides by impermeable shales, or when there is an explosion within a confined space.
- Implications
- It is extremely important to be able to diagnose overpressured units when drilling through them, as the drilling mud weight (density) must be adjusted to compensate. If it is not, there is a risk that the pressure difference down-well will cause a dramatic decompression of the overpressured layer and result in a blowout at the well-head with possibly disastrous consequences.
- Because overpressured sediments tend to exhibit better porosity than would be predicted from their depth, they often make attractive hydrocarbon reservoirs and are therefore of important economic interest.
- See also
Requested move 6 February 2019
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The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure) KCVelaga (talk) 16:45, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
Overpressure → blast overpressure – Overpressurising a pipeline is something else entirely. 86.12.160.194 (talk) 09:40, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
- Disagree - We have Overpressure (disambiguation) to deal with this. Did you have something else in mind for the primary topic? (Hohum @) 18:50, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
- I'm not sure that there is a primary topic. This gets more views than other candidates, but many might be accidental. Yet the disambiguation page gets far fewer views, so readers aren't clicking through the hatnote.I appreciate that page views are not the whole story. 94.21.238.64 (talk) 01:11, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
- I'm leaning oppose, though I do agree that Blast overpressure (and possibly something like Overpressure (explosion) or Overpressure (blast)) should be created as redirect(s). --IJBall (contribs • talk) 21:22, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.